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The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast

Halle Tecco, Michael Esquivel, & Steve Kraus
The Heart of Healthcare | A Digital Health Podcast
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  • Why Healthcare Is Totally Unprepared for AI | TowerBrook Advisors President Eric Jon Larsen
    US healthcare has more unproductive labor and more unstructured data than any other industry, making it both vulnerable to disruption from generative AI and especially unprepared for it.That’s the provocative thesis of Eric Larsen, president of TowerBrook Advisors. In this episode, he joins host Steve Kraus to explain why generative AI is unlike any other technology we've seen—and why the $4.9 trillion healthcare sector is uniquely exposed.We cover:🧠 What makes GenAI a true “general purpose technology”—and how it compares to past innovations like the microprocessor or the internet🏥 Why healthcare has failed to adopt past tech shifts, and why this time could be different🔐 The role of the “F-150”—the 150 leaders who effectively control the US healthcare system🤝 Whether incumbents or insurgents will win the AI race in healthcare📉 Why GenAI will reduce labor costs and what that means for health systems that spend over half their budgets on people🌐 How China is sprinting ahead in deploying medical superintelligence🧬 What a compressed century of biomedical discovery could look like—and why Larsen believes we’re approaching longevity escape velocity—About our guests:Eric Jon Larsen is President of TowerBrook Advisors and a member of the healthcare leadership team at TowerBrook Capital Partners, a $30 billion AUM investment firm based in New York and London. TowerBrook invests across private equity, structured minority, and growth opportunities, with a strong focus on healthcare, partnering with health systems, payers, and other strategics. Notably, TowerBrook is the first mainstream private equity firm to achieve B Corp certification, reflecting its commitment to responsible business practices.Eric is a nationally recognized healthcare strategist with a global advisory portfolio spanning CEOs and boards of leading healthcare organizations. He spent 25 years at The Advisory Board Company—five of those as President—advancing best practices in healthcare delivery worldwide. Following the firm's 2017 acquisition by Optum (UnitedHealth Group), Eric co-led strategic partnerships and market development efforts at UnitedHealth. He is also a Venture Partner at Thrive Capital and SignalFire, and serves on several digital health boards, including Somatus and Contessa Health. Beyond healthcare, Eric is active in the arts as Chairman of The Washington National Opera and trustee of The Washington Ballet. A Georgetown University graduate, he lives in Washington, D.C., and Miami with his wife and three children.—🙏 If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review!—📍 Connect with us:Heart of Healthcare websiteLinkedInInstagramTikTok See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • A New Era at Optum | Optum Chief Executive Officer Dr. Patrick Conway
    Over 160 million Americans are served by Optum, yet many still don’t fully understand what it actually does—or why it matters.Dr. Patrick Conway, newly appointed CEO of Optum and former head of CMS Innovation Center and Blue Cross NC, joins Steve for a wide-ranging discussion on the state of healthcare delivery, affordability, and the potential of value-based care at a national scale. With experience spanning the frontlines of medicine to top government and corporate leadership, Conway breaks down how Optum aims to improve care while controlling costs—and why he continues to practice as a pediatric hospitalist on weekends.We cover:💡 What Optum actually does—and how it operates across care delivery, pharmacy, and data📉 How value-based care is being scaled, and why two-sided risk models matter🧠 Using AI to reduce cycle times, drive affordability, and improve clinical decision-making💊 What’s broken—and what’s working—in the U.S. pharmacy system🧑‍⚕️ What leaders, policymakers, and physicians need to know to truly fix healthcare🧵 How personal tragedy, frontline stories, and government service continue to shape Conway’s leadership today—About our guests:Patrick Conway, MD, MSc, was named chief executive officer of Optum Rx in August 2023. In this role he leads an integrated pharmacy care services organization that is making drugs more affordable and creating a better experience for consumers, filling more than 1.5 billion adjusted retail, mail and specialty drug prescriptions annually. He joined Optum in February 2020 andpreviously served as the chief executive officer of Care Solutions, where he led a portfolio of care continuum businesses serving over 70 million people across acute and post-acute care, care in the home in-person and virtually, mental and behavioral care benefits and delivery, broad population and complex disease health management, specialty care and government health services.Dr. Conway was president and chief executive officer of Blue Cross and Blue Shield of North Carolina from 2017-19. From 2011 to 2017, he served as Deputy Administrator for Innovation and Quality at the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services and as director of the Center for Medicare and Medicaid Innovation and the agency’s Chief Medical Officer. Before joining CMS, he oversaw clinical operations and quality improvement at Cincinnati Children’s Hospital Medical Center.Dr. Conway is a practicing pediatric hospitalist. He was elected to the National Academy of Medicine in 2014, received the President’s Senior Executive Distinguished Service Award, and was a White House Fellow from 2007 to 2008. He earned his MD with high honors from Baylor College of Medicine, residency training at Boston Children’s Hospital, and Master of Science in clinical epidemiology from the University of Pennsylvania.—🙏 If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review!—📍 Connect with us:Heart of Healthcare websiteLinkedInInstagramTikTok See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • The Flywheel Holding Women’s Health Back | Rock Health CEO Katie Drasser & Tia Founding CEO Carolyn Witte
    Women make 80% of healthcare decisions and outspend men two to one on care—yet when it comes to designing, funding, and scaling health tech, they’re still treated like a niche.In this episode, we break down the broken flywheel holding women’s health innovation back including fewer growth-stage investments, limited exits, and a system not built to serve women as the primary users of care. I’m joined by Carolyn Witte, co-founder of Tia, and Katie Drasser, CEO of Rock Health, to talk about what needs to change—and how we get there.We cover:📱 What Rock Health’s latest report says about women as digital health consumers🚫 Why men shouldn’t be the benchmark for women’s health💸 How women’s health companies struggle to raise beyond Series A (and what to do about it)👩‍⚕️ Why every company should be a women’s health company💡 What founders and investors need to do differently to unlock women’s health at scale—About our guests:Katie Drasser is CEO of RockHealth.org, leading a team of experts in health equity, social enterprise, and design to encourage more equitable innovation in digital health. Drasser has launched programs that address complex global issues with a focus on public health innovation and the role of innovative financing and leadership in systems change. Previously, she curated health content for the Aspen Ideas Festival and was managing director of the Aspen Global Innovators Group, steering global leadership programs to address poverty alleviation and human rights. Drasser has worked internationally on HIV/AIDS treatment strategies in Romania, private health services delivery in Myanmar, and the scale up of Kenya’s national emergency medical system. She designed a network of charter schools and developed Good Capital, a venture fund that invests in social enterprises like the Hub Bay Area and the Social Capital Markets Conference.Carolyn Witte is a visionary healthcare entrepreneur dedicated to creating a personalized, preventive, and human-centered healthcare system. As the founding CEO of Tia — the leading tech-enabled primary care provider for women — she pioneered a new model of “whole-women’s” healthcare, integrating virtual and retail-style clinics, technology, and a multidisciplinary care teams to transform the business and experience of going to the doctor. A former strategist at Google’s Creative Lab, Carolyn brings an interdisciplinary approach to healthcare innovation through design, technology, and brand. Her latest passion project is The XX Factor — a newsletter and community advancing the women’s health category through hard won lessons, shared learnings and collective action. She’s been recognized by Fast Company, Forbes, and Inc. Magazine as a trailblazer for women in business.—Show notes:Women in focus: understanding women as digital health consumers (Rock Health)There’s a Growth-Stage Cliff Plaguing Women’s Health Startups—🙏 If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review!—📍 Connect with us:Heart of Healthcare websiteTikTok (NEW!)LinkedInInstagramSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • 📣 Digital Health Download: May 2025
    In this month's Digital Health Download, Steve and Halle unpack the headlines shaping healthcare, policy, and technology—with an eye toward where things may be heading next. From shifting political support for Medicaid and the ACA to state-level action on PBMs, they explore the unexpected ways the system is evolving.We cover:🩺 Why more Republicans are backing Medicaid and ACA expansion—and what the data tells us🧠 Autism in the spotlight (and Halle's favorite show)⚖ How a new Arkansas law could disrupt the PBM status quo📊 Bessemer’s new Health AI Adoption Index, including what separates pilots from true deployments📚 A lawsuit against academic publishers that’s raising questions about access and transparency in research—📍 Show notes:Enrollment Growth in the ACA Marketplaces (KFF)Love on the Spectrum (Netflix)Arkansas adopts first-in-the-nation law forcing companies to choose between running a PBM or pharmacies (STAT News)Scientists’ suit against top academic publishers lays bare deep frustration over unpaid peer review (STAT News)Another Call for Open Access (Halle’s blog)The Healthcare AI Adoption Index (BVP)—🙏 If you're enjoying the show, please leave us a review!—📍 Connect with us:Heart of Healthcare websiteLinkedInInstagramTikTokSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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  • Stopping Healthcare's Tapeworm with Zero Inflation Healthcare | Clayton Christensen Institute Director Ann Somers Hogg
    The average American family spends over $24,000 a year on healthcare, and costs continue to rise faster than inflation. Why can't we create a healthcare system that delivers more value for less money?In this conversation with Ann Somers Hogg, Director of Healthcare Research at the Clayton Christensen Institute, we explore the concept of "Zero Inflation Healthcare" and uncover why traditional health insurance models continue to drive costs up. Ann breaks down why many InsureTech startups initially struggled to disrupt incumbents and how a new approach to business model innovation could finally tame runaway healthcare costs.We cover:🌟 The "optimal care business model" that could help transform healthcare📊 Why InsureTechs like Oscar and Clover struggled initially against incumbents🧰 If and how insurance companies can fix their reputations💰 Why health insurance companies' "spend more to make more" profit formula fails to incentivize the desired outcome🔄 How regulations create barriers to disruptive innovation in health insurance🛑 Why Haven (the Amazon-Berkshire-JPMorgan venture) failed despite its resources💡 How the "Jobs to Be Done" theory applies to healthcare choices—About our guest:Ann Somers is the director of health care research at the Clayton Christensen Institute where her research focuses on the structural pathways to improve health. This includes business model design, leadership approaches, customer orientation, and innovation strategy. Prior to joining the Institute, Ann Somers worked for Atrium Health (now Advocate Health), where she served as the AVP of Strategy and Transformation. She started her career in consulting at Oliver Wyman, working to develop value-based care strategies for large payers. Ann Somers holds an MSPH in Health Policy and Management from UNC-Chapel Hill and a BS in Commerce from the University of Virginia. She lives in Richmond, Virginia with her husband and two children.—Show notes: Read the full paper here: christenseninstitute.org/publication/health-insurance-innovation If you’d like to learn more about the Institute’s broader work, feel free to explore: www.christenseninstitute.org —If you're enjoying the show, we would so appreciate it if you left us a review!—📍 Connect with us:Heart of Healthcare websiteLinkedInInstagramTikTokSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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The Heart of Healthcare podcast gets to the heart of our mission in digital health — to massively improve healthcare for all. 🏆 #1 podcast in the Top 100 Health Tech All time charts👥 Hosted by digital health veterans Halle Tecco, Michael Esquivel, and Steve Kraus🎙 New episode every MondayJoin us for authentic and compelling conversations with thought leaders as we deconstruct underlying problems in healthcare, and identify how we can work together to solve them.
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