M&A Science

Kison Patel
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    M&A Integration Technology: What Actually Works

    21/05/2026 | 50 min
    Jim Buckley, VP M&A Integration at Coursera | Todd Manley, VP of Corp Dev Integration at Intel | Carey Pugh is Sr. Director, M&A Corporate Integration at Ansys | Mahesh Ganesan, Sr. Director, M&A Integration at UKG

    Four integration leaders from Intel, Coursera, Ansys, and UKG debate what integration technology actually delivers versus what creates expensive overhead and where the real value leaks are. Todd Manley, Jim Buckley, Carey Pugh, and Mahesh Ganesan bring decades of deal experience to a conversation with no presentations and no curated answers.
    What You'll Learn
    Why the diligence-to-integration handoff keeps failing and what actually fixes it
    How to evaluate integration technology without getting sold on complexity
    Where AI is genuinely useful in integration today and where it is not
    How to right-size your integration effort across multiple simultaneous deals
    Why knowledge loss is the biggest value leak in M&A and what to do about it
    How to handle post-close direction shifts when the acquired team changes course
    Why post-mortems matter and why most integration teams never run them
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    Episode Chapters
    [04:16] Introductions: Todd Manley, Jim Buckley, Carey Pugh, Mahesh Ganesan
    [07:20] Integration philosophy: look back-to-forward, value drivers, keep it simple
    [09:16] Culture as the foundation and what "walking the walk" actually means
    [14:50] What separates teams that execute from teams that don't
    [17:30] The diligence handoff problem: what gets lost and why
    [23:56] Where integration technology helps and where it gets in the way
    [24:39] AI in integration: real use cases vs. early innings
    [31:02] The single source of truth problem
    [32:38] Non-tech tools: simplicity as a method (5 slides, 5 bullets, 5 words)
    [34:23] Audience Q&A: right-sizing diligence across 25 simultaneous deals
    [40:22] Audience Q&A: managing post-close autonomy flips in integration
    [43:03] Audience Q&A: sudden integration direction changes from leadership
    [45:59] Biggest value leaks in M&A integration
    [48:11] The case for pre-mortems and post-mortems
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    Partner Before You Buy: The Pre-Acquisition Strategy Corp Dev Teams Skip

    14/05/2026 | 52 min
    Tomer Stavitsky is SVP and Chief Corporate Development Officer at Omnicell (NASDAQ: OMCL)
    Corp dev teams treat M&A and partnerships as separate tracks, but Tomer Stavitsky looks at them holistically. In this episode, he breaks down the partner-first approach: an acquisition framework for situations where the target isn't ready, the PE owner isn't selling, or your integration capacity isn't there. He walks us through structuring the partnership, keeping the acquisition thesis alive through execution, negotiating and defending a right of first refusal, and managing the three-way stakeholder dynamic without signaling the wrong things at the wrong time.
     
    What You'll Learn
    When partner-first is the right call and when it isn't
    How to keep the acquisition thesis alive through the partnership execution phase
    Managing the three-way dynamic between target leadership, the PE owner, and your own organization
    How to negotiate a right of first refusal and what happens when it gets tested
    Why teams pull the trigger too early and how to protect the process from internal pressure
    Applying partner-first to AI-era targets without getting caught in the hype cycle
    If you're working through a partner-first deal, the M&A Science membership has frameworks and tools built for exactly this kind of situation. Learn more at mascience.com/membership.
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    Episode Chapters
    [00:00] Introduction: Tomer Stavitsky's Background and the End-to-End Corp Dev View
    [08:04] Building or Rebuilding a Corp Dev Function
    [16:01] What Is the Partner-First Approach and When Does It Apply
    [21:10] Mapping the Market and Deciding Who Stays on the Watch List
    [24:13] Managing Multiple Targets Without Over-Committing
    [27:48] Using Exclusivity as a Strategic and Protective Tool
    [35:00] Managing the Three-Party Dynamic: Target Leadership, PE Owner, and Your Own Org
    [37:58] The Real Story: How a Partnership Became an Acquisition (Including the Competitive ROFR Moment)
    [42:41] The Most Common Mistake in Converting a Partnership to an Acquisition
    [44:32] Applying Partner-First to AI-Era Targets
    [49:21] What's the Craziest Thing You've Seen in M&A?
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    How M&A Turns a Chemical Company Into a Tech Business

    07/05/2026 | 53 min
    Chandradev Mehta, SVP Strategy and Business Development at Hexion Inc.
    Chandradev Mehta, SVP Strategy and Business Development at Hexion Inc., breaks down how a commodity chemical company uses M&A to transform into a technology-enabled, chemistry-as-a-service business. He covers the acquisition of an AI and MarTech company, the build vs. buy vs. partner decision framework, integration planning discipline, banker selection, small deal execution, and JV governance.
    What You'll Learn
    How to build a genuine build vs. buy vs. partner framework  and when each is right
    Why buying a commercialized or near-commercialized business changes your risk profile in ways that building from scratch can't (and never will)
    How Chandradev structures must-believes to maintain valuation discipline in competitive processes
    Why integration planning needs to start at IOI, not post-close
    What separates a banker worth your time from one running a numbers game
    Why small deals are frequently harder to execute than large ones (and how to protect against organizational deprioritization)
    How to negotiate JV governance before you need to unwind it

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    Episode Chapters
    [00:00] Introduction
    [04:41] From Investment Banking to the Principal Side
    [10:24] Using M&A to Transform Hexion
    [11:01] Build vs. Buy vs. Partner Framework
    [16:42] What Chemistry as a Service Actually Means
    [23:43] Sourcing Deals: Push and Pull Model
    [26:24] What Makes a Banker Actually Useful
    [29:12] Valuation Discipline and Must-Believes
    [36:21] Environmental Risk in Chemical Deals
    [36:46] Why Small Deals Are Harder Than They Look
    [41:21] Joint Ventures: Negotiate the Divorce First
    [43:25] Execution Principles and Stakeholder Alignment
    [47:08] Getting Deals Actionable
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    CPG Exit Strategy: How to Build a Consumer Brand Strategics Will Acquire | Keith Levy Part 2

    30/04/2026 | 57 min
    Keith Levy, Operating Partner at Sonoma Brands Capital
    Most consumer brand founders think about exit as an event. Keith Levy thinks about it as a design requirement.
    In the second of two episodes, Keith walks through what exit-ready actually looks like in CPG: the revenue and EBITDA thresholds that matter, why you have to get beyond the corp dev team to the operators who actually need what you're building, how capital gets wasted at every stage of a brand's lifecycle, and what the investments that produce exits have in common versus the ones that don't.
    If you missed the first episode, it covers Keith's five-pillar CPG diligence framework and the Touchland and Bachan's case studies. Start there.
    What You'll Learn
    What revenue and EBITDA thresholds a consumer brand needs to attract a strategic acquirer.
    Why getting to corp dev is not enough, and how to reach the operators who actually need your brand.
    How capital gets wasted at each stage of a CPG brand's lifecycle.
    Why execution is where most investments fail, not the idea or the founder.
    What the celebrity founder model got wrong, and why copying a formula that worked once rarely works twice.
    What the investments that produced exits at Sonoma Brands had in common.
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    Episode Chapters
    [00:00:01] Intro
    [00:04:19] Day-to-day across 20+ portfolio companies
    [00:05:43] When to lean in and when to stay out
    [00:09:28] Pre-LOI landmines that kill deals early
    [00:13:26] The CPG brand lifecycle: from first check to exit
    [00:16:04] How capital needs change as a brand grows
    [00:20:15] Execution is why most investments fail
    [00:21:26] Capital allocation as the real test of a founder
    [00:23:00] What it takes to position a CPG brand for strategic exit
    [00:25:13] Big companies can't incubate brands — why that's your edge
    [00:26:23] Why you have to get beyond the corp dev team
    [00:29:48] What the investments that worked had in common
    [00:33:43] Why investments fall apart after you cut the check
    [00:35:16] The celebrity founder trap
    [00:39:16] How the Sonoma deal funnel actually works
    [00:45:22] What kills a deal at the investment committee stage
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    CPG Due Diligence: The Operator Framework Behind a $1B Exit | Keith Levy Part 1

    23/04/2026 | 53 min
    Keith Levy, Operating Partner at Sonoma Brands Capital
    Keith Levy backed an exit of just under $1B  and a $400M exit using the same five-pillar framework, and he starts with the founder every time. Finance comes last.
    As Operating Partner at Sonoma Brands Capital, Keith has spent six years evaluating consumer brands across food, beverage, pet food, snacks, and cosmetics. Before that he was CMO at Anheuser-Busch through the $52B InBev deal, president of Royal Canin USA for Mars, and the strategic acquirer who led the Kind acquisition at Mars Wrigley. He knows what the data room doesn't show you, and this conversation is built around that gap.
    The first of two episodes covers the full five-pillar CPG diligence framework and the Touchland and Boon's case studies. The second episode, out the following week, covers CPG brand lifecycle, exit positioning, and capital allocation. 
     What You'll Learn
    Why the founder evaluation comes before the financials.
    How to read product-market fit the way an operator does, not a financial analyst.
    What a credible go-to-market strategy looks like vs. one that crashes in execution.
    Why supply chain control is now a diligence requirement, not an afterthought.
    How to get the right operators inside a strategic acquirer interested before a banker calls.
    The Touchland case study: under $1B exit in less than two years
    The Bachan's Japanese BBQ sauce case study: ($400M) exit with McCormick at the table.
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    Episode Chapters
    [00:00:00] Intro
    [00:02:02] Keith's background overview (24 years at AB, $52B InBev deal – narrated)
    [00:05:40] Running Royal Canin and joining Mars / Mars Wrigley
    [00:08:45] Why Mars acquired Kind
    [00:09:15] What is Sonoma Brands and how Keith got there
    [00:10:17] The Budweiser CMO era & favorite ads
    [00:15:12] The Mars / Wrigley China integration
    [00:23:15] How Sonoma Brands evolved from venture to growth equity
    [00:25:11] Why deals don't work and what Sonoma changed
    [00:27:12] The Keith Levy CPG diligence framework
    [00:30:04] How to evaluate a founder
    [00:35:40] What product‑market fit actually looks like
    [00:38:32]  Touchland: under $1B exit in two years
    [00:39:05] Go‑to‑market: sequencing channels & steady growth
    [00:41:10] Why TAM is just a sniff test
    [00:43:31] Why how you make the product matters more than you think
    [00:47:08] The real value an operating partner brings
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M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice. Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process. Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world
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