What Came Next

Content warning: sexual abuse, sexual assault, childhood sexual abuse, statutory rape, human trafficking, sex trafficking, and suicide.
This episode originally aired on November 29th, 2024.
Lisa Phillips is a model, actress, survivor, and victim advocate who has spent much of her life all over the world. While cultivating a career in the modeling and acting industries, Lisa even found herself overseas and as a guest on Jeffrey Epstein’s private island. That specific trip would become quite traumatic for Lisa, and although she would never return to the property again, she would soon be trafficked into a vast and widespread ring that enabled mass sexual assault. However, it wouldn’t be until after navigating the legal system and sharing her story with other survivors of the same serial abuser, that Lisa truly was confronted by the depth of her trauma. The Broken Cycle Media team is so grateful Lisa was willing to share all that came next for her in her healing process, and in creating her beautiful podcast community entitled From Now On.
Lisa's Links:
From Now On Podcast: https://www.lisaphillips.la/podcast
Lisa Phillips' Website: https://www.lisaphillips.la/
From Now On Podcast Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/fromnowonpod
Lisa's Instagram: http://www.instagram.com/iamlisaphillips
For more resources and a list of related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
Sources:
ABC 7 Chicago. (2024, July 2). Jeffrey Epstein grand jury documents released by judge in Florida [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8x8ESdS_mkU.
CBS New York. (2019, July 6). Jeffrey Epstein Arrested For Sex Trafficking [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tJ9-tFKJaA&list=PPSV
Cohen, L. (2023, November 9). JPMorgan’s $290 million settlement with Epstein accusers approved by US judge. Reuters. https://www.reuters.com/legal/us-judge-weigh-jpmorgans-290-million-settlement-with-epstein-accusers-2023-11-09/
Ghislaine Maxwell Charged In Manhattan Federal Court For Conspiring With Jeffrey Epstein To Sexually Abuse Minors. (2020, July 2). United States Attorney’s Office. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-charged-manhattan-federal-court-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually
Ghislaine Maxwell Sentenced To 20 Years In Prison For Conspiring With Jeffrey Epstein To Sexually Abuse Minors. (2022, June 28). United States Attorney’s Office. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/ghislaine-maxwell-sentenced-20-years-prison-conspiring-jeffrey-epstein-sexually-abuse
NBC News. (2024, January 4). Newly unsealed documents reveal Jeffrey Epstein’s relationships with powerful people [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4_x7tg5YO5s&t=4s
Jeffrey Epstein Charged In Manhattan Federal Court With Sex Trafficking Of Minors. (2019, July 8). Press Release. https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdny/pr/jeffrey-epstein-charged-manhattan-federal-court-sex-trafficking-minors
Judge releases 2006 PBC grand jury documents in Jeffrey Epstein criminal case. (2024, July 1). [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JfPV4c2Tnic&t=32s
Over $150 Million Paid to Jeffrey Epstein Victims by His Estate Claim Executors in Latest Financial Filing. (2023, November 14). Inside Edition. https://www.insideedition.com/jeffrey-epstein-victims-payments-estate-value
Will We Ever Know How Many Girls Jeffrey Epstein Abused? (2019, July 19). The Cut. https://www.thecut.com/2019/07/how-many-jeffrey-epstein-victims-are-there.html
WFLA News Channel 8. (2024, July 2). New documents reveal sordid life of Billionaire Jeffrey Epstein [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HloA3-rZnFw&list=PPSV&t=72s
WPBF 25 News. (2024, July 1). Judge releases grand jury records in 2008 Jeffrey Epstein criminal case [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t3erEsEhjLk&t=12s
WPTV News. (2024, July 1). Breakdown of newly released Epstein grand jury testimony [Video]. YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rCz87fmI5ks&list=PPSV
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Content warning: murder.
The cold-blooded murder of a rising college football star stunned the University of
Miami - and now, nearly 20 years later, a former teammate stands trial for the crime.
An investigative series from ESPN’s acclaimed 30 for 30 Podcasts, “Murder at the U”
unravels a story of betrayal, brotherhood, and the long road to justice in one of the
most gripping sports crime stories in recent memory. With in-depth reporting and
jaw-dropping twists, this true crime series explores the shocking death of Bryan Pata
as it finally heads to the courtroom.
For the complete story, head over to ESPN's 30 for 30 Podcasts.
30 for 30 Podcasts website:
https://30for30podcasts.com/
ESPN's 30 for 30 Podcasts on Apple:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/30-for-30-podcasts/id1244784611
30 for 30 Podcasts: MURDER AT THE U Trailer
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-murder-at-the-u/id1244784611?i=1000746832310

Content Warning: grooming, domestic violence, physical violence, sexual violence, sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, and sex trafficking.
In these two episodes we feature Marina Lacerda, a survivor and mother from Brazil. In her youth, she immigrated to New York with her mother in hopes of forging a new life. Almost immediately, Marina would begin to face sexual and physical violence that normalized a long cycle of abuse. By the time she was 14, Marina would be introduced to Jeffrey Epstein, a man that seemed to symbolize success and wealth, but only added to her trauma. Eventually, Marina would play a part in both of the FBI’s attempts at justice in 2008 and 2019, when during the latter, she would be dubbed, “Minor Victim 1.” Marina’s journey is a testament to the impact of the cycle of abuse, but it also is a testament to her personal resilience and strength. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly honored she was willing to share her story with our audience, and continues to be transparent about her healing journey in the name of advocacy.
Marina's Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/marinalacerdaforsurvivors/
Sources:
Chappell, Bill. “Jeffrey Epstein Files: Tracing the Legal Cases That Led to Sex-Trafficking Charges.” NPR, NPR, 25 July 2025, www.npr.org/2025/07/25/nx-s1-5478620/jeffrey-epstein-crimes-timeline-legal-case
Diaz, Jaclyn. “Jeffrey Epstein’s Former Prosecutors Used ‘poor Judgment’ in Deal, Doj Says.” NPR, NPR, 12 Nov. 2020, www.npr.org/2020/11/12/934265386/jeffrey-epsteins-former-prosecutors-used-poor-judgment-in-deal-doj-says
Sardarizadeh, Shayan. “Details of Jeffrey Epstein Post-Mortem Released in Latest Files.” BBC News, BBC, 4 Feb. 2026, www.bbc.com/news/articles/cm2y33q8l1qo
Sisak, Michael R., and David B. Caruso. “At Least 16 Files Disappear from DOJ Site for Epstein Documents, Including Trump Photo.” PBS, Public Broadcasting Service, 20 Dec. 2025, www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/at-least-16-files-disappear-from-doj-site-for-epstein-documents-including-trump-photo
For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources

Content warning: murder.
The latest season of ESPN's 30 for 30 Podcasts tells the story of a murder that stunned the world of college football, but then inexplicably went cold. In 2006, Brian Pata, a 22-year-old Rising University of Miami football star was executed in broad daylight, steps from campus and months from realizing his NFL dreams.
No murder weapon was found, witnesses were missing, and of what statements could be gathered, some were conflicting. Leads came and went. For nearly a decade, Brian Pata's murder sat unresolved, a long-dormant case defined more by rumor than evidence. Until years later, an ESPN investigation would take a hard look at the case, uncovering long buried details and raising questions that many had stopped asking. What they discovered thrust a long dormant case back into the spotlight. Now, nearly two decades later, a former teammate stands trial.
Murder at the U is a story about loyalty, betrayal, and truth buried in plain sight. The season is about a family that never stops seeking justice. Find Murder at the U on the 30 for 30 Podcasts feed wherever you listen to podcasts, and prepare yourself for an ending you didn't see coming.
Thirty for Thirty Podcasts:
https://30for30podcasts.com/
Thirty for Thirty Podcasts on Apple:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/30-for-30-podcasts/id1244784611
Thirty for Thirty: MURDER AT THE U Trailer on Apple Podcasts
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/introducing-murder-at-the-u/id1244784611?i=1000746832310

Content Warning: grooming, domestic violence, physical violence, sexual violence, sexual abuse, childhood sexual abuse, and sex trafficking.
Marina Lacerda is a survivor and mother from Brazil. In her youth, she immigrated to New York with her mother in hopes of forging a new life. Almost immediately, Marina would begin to face sexual and physical violence that normalized a long cycle of abuse. By the time she was 14, Marina would be introduced to Jeffrey Epstein, a man that seemed to symbolize success and wealth, but only added to her trauma. Eventually, Marina would play a part in both of the FBI’s attempts at justice in 2008 and 2019, when during the latter, she would be dubbed, “Minor Victim 1.” Marina’s journey is a testament to the impact of the cycle of abuse, but it also is a testament to her personal resilience and strength. The Broken Cycle Media team is incredibly honored she was willing to share her story with our audience, and continues to be transparent about her healing journey in the name of advocacy.
Marina's Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/marinalacerdaforsurvivors/
For a list of additional resources and related non-profit organizations, please visit http://www.somethingwaswrong.com/resources
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