Things Bakers Know: The King Arthur Baking Podcast

This week, we’re waking up early and starting the day the right way: with a big batch of pancakes.  
Jessica and David kick off the show by sharing a bit about the history of pancakes — which goes back much longer than you may realize. Then, things take a wild turn when David reveals a truly shocking revelation about his pancake consumption habits. Next, David sits down with cookbook author Carla Lalli to hear her opinions on pancakes, as well as the role they play in helping us get back in touch with eating like kids. David and Jessica then jump into answering your questions about making pancakes, including tips on getting a fluffier short stack, before closing the show with a Jess-opinion and the recipes they’re making this week.  
Recipes and other links from this episode: 
Find all of our pancake mixes, including David’s preferred gluten-free mix  
Learn more about Carla’s new book Food is a Feeling  
And read her Substack, Food Processing  
Read our blog: How to make fluffy pancakes  
What David’s baking this week: Ultimate Flaky Biscuits  
What Jessica’s baking this week: Popovers  
Record your question for our Ask the Bakers segment here! 
Follow along with us on Substack  
For 25% off any On-Demand baking class, use coupon code POD25 at shop.kingarthurbaking.com/on-demand-classes 
This episode is sponsored by Cabot Creamery. Cabot is a farmer-owned cooperative dedicated to making delicious, high-quality cheese and dairy products, and 100% of profits go back to the farm families that own Cabot. Visit Cabot’s website for recipes, pairing suggestions, and a curated selection of gift boxes for every occasion.   
This episode is sponsored by Snooze. Snooze is the OG Breakfast Bar, serving creative breakfast, brunch, and lunch with a mission to make mornings matter. With 65 restaurants across 10 states, Snooze brings a little more creativity and energy to mornings across the country. Find your nearest Snooze at snoozeeatery.com.

It’s fall, which means it’s time to talk about baking with apples!  
David and Jessica kick off the show by talking about apple pie versus apple cake, then dig into the best apples for baking. Unsurprisingly, they have a lot of opinions! Then David sits down with one of the best all-around bakers in the country and the undisputed pie queen, Erin Jeanne McDowell, to get her top tips for apple baking. Jessica and David answer your biggest apple baking questions before Jessica shares a Jess-opinion about caramel apples, and they close the show with the best fall-forward recipes they’re baking this week.  
Recipes and other links from this episode:  
Read our blog, The best pie apples: Here's how to choose 
Learn more about Erin McDowell and her brand-new cookbook, Bake Anything, at erinjeannemcdowell.com 
Want to learn directly from Erin? Take her On-Demand pie baking class  
Get fall’s best baking ingredient: Vermont Boiled Cider  
Read our blog on how to prevent the gap in pie crust  
Get our recipe for Apple Pie with Make-Ahead Filling 
What David’s baking this week: Pumpkin Snickerdoodle Cookies  
What Jessica’s baking this week: Apple Crumb Cake 
Record your question for our Ask the Bakers segment here! 
Follow along with us on Substack  
For 25% off any On-Demand baking class, use coupon code POD25 at shop.kingarthurbaking.com/on-demand-classes 
Cabot is a farmer-owned cooperative dedicated to making delicious, high-quality cheese and dairy products, and 100% of profits go back to the farm families that own Cabot. Visit Cabot’s website for recipes, pairing suggestions, and a curated selection of gift boxes for every occasion.  
This episode is sponsored by Supernatural. Supernatural makes imaginative baking ingredients that are colored by plants, fully traceable, and totally free from anything artificial or synthetic. Learn more at supernaturalkitchen.com

We’re back with a brand-new season, and we’re celebrating with — what else? — cake!  
Specifically, the best chocolate cake in the world, as made by this episode’s guest, James Beard award-winning cookbook author Helen Goh. Helen joins the show to talk about the recipe the New York Times named the “World’s Best Chocolate Cake” (spoiler alert: her family hates it) and the power of baking to help us find more meaning in our lives and community. 
Jessica and David then dig into your cake questions, from the best way to freeze slices of cake to determining when cakes are actually done baking. As usual, Jessica brings the heat with a controversial Jess-opinion about chocolate and fruit, and the pair close out the show with the recipes they’re baking this week.  
Recipes and other links from this episode:  
Read Tamar Adler’s piece, What Does It Actually Take to Make the Best Chocolate Cake in the World?, featuring Jessica  
Bake Helen’s World’s Best Chocolate Cake  
Learn more about Helen and her cookbook, Baking and the Meaning of Life, at instagram.com/helen_goh_bakes 
Find out more about Cake4Kids and how to get involved  
Learn more: How to tell when cake is done  
What David’s baking this week: High-Hydration Whole Wheat Sourdough Bread 
What Jessica’s baking this week: French Onion Rolls 
Record your question for our Ask the Bakers segment here! 
Follow along with us on Substack  
For 25% off any On-Demand baking class, use coupon code POD25 at shop.kingarthurbaking.com/on-demand-classes 
This episode is sponsored by Supernatural. Supernatural makes imaginative baking ingredients that are colored by plants, fully traceable, and totally free from anything artificial or synthetic. Learn more at supernaturalkitchen.com

Things Bakers Know, the official podcast from King Arthur Baking Company, is back with a ten episode fourth season — starting October 5th! Join King Arthur’s Jessica Battilana and David Tamarkin as they explore every corner of the baking world. Each episode dives deep into a different baked good — its history and lore, tips and tricks, trends and takes — and they'll always leave time to answer baking questions from listeners. Along the way they chat with the best bakers in America to get their expert advice. Plus, we are on video! Things Bakers Know is available wherever you get your podcasts, and on Youtube, or by going to KingArthurBaking.com/podcast!

A new Chad Robertson venture is always a big deal, and we have all the details.  
In May, Jessica talked to the Tartine co-founder for our episode all about his bread and the enormous influence it has had on baking around the world. During that conversation, Chad talked at length about his forthcoming bakery and cafe in Brooklyn, Altbau. But those details weren’t quite ready for prime time when the episode came out. So we held that part of the conversation back — until now. Listen as Chad gives us all the delicious details about Altbau, including the story behind it, and a preview of what to expect.  
This is a bonus episode of Things Bakers Know. We’re still on a between-season break, and will be back with more episodes in the fall. Until then, follow the recipe! 
Recipes and other links from this episode:  
Listen to our full episode about Tartine, featuring Chad Robertson 
Follow Chad Robertson and his work on Instagram  
Inspired to bake? Order a sourdough starter or make your own  
This episode is sponsored by Brød & Taylor. Your best bread is within reach. Brød & Taylor builds tools that help you get there. See what's possible at brodandtaylor.com.