Stories Lived. Stories Told.

What does it mean to perform "the person you are" as well as "the person you are not"?
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Today, Abbie, Cathy, and Sarah discuss the difference between play, improvisation, and performance and the role that each can have in our personal and collective growth.
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Cathy Rose Salit is an executive coach, improviser, jazz vocalist, and play activist. She founded The Global Play Brigade, an online community across 100 countries providing free workshops, technical and network support to grassroots activists utilizing play and performance. As founder/CEO Emerita of the leadership consultancy Performance of a Lifetime, she led the growth of the company for over 23 years, working with thousands of leaders and teams in top brand companies. Cathy is the author of Performance Breakthrough: A Radical Approach to Success at Work, and her work has been featured in the Harvard Business Review, Forbes, and the Wall Street Journal. She’s been active as a grassroots organizer since she was a teenager; building alternative schools, social therapy centers, independent political campaigns, the East Side Institute and Performing the World and the Applied Improv Network. Cathy lives in St. James, NY and performs at venues including The Jazz Loft and Science Plays Festivals and Madiran The Wine Bar.
Sarah Filman (she/they) is a leadership coach, facilitator, and improviser who uses play as a catalyst for human development. As founder of Playful Perspectives and volunteer with Global Play Brigade, Sarah designs experiences where leaders reconnect with possibility, teams navigate conflict with curiosity, and strangers across continents discover what emerges when they yes-and each other. Drawing on nearly two decades of leadership experience in tech and education (Code.org, Microsoft), Sarah brings strategic thinking and a playful spirit to supporting growth at individual, team, and community levels. Their "Soft Skills for Hard Conversations" workshop series was funded by Boston's Office of Arts and Culture. 
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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Listen to Part 1 of this conversation on The Systemic Way Podcast.
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Today, Abbie, Sezer, and Julie talk untold stories, systemic thinking and practice, and the podcast conversations that live on in each of their lives. 
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Sezer and Julie are the co-hosts of The Systemic Way Podcast.
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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Welcome to the ASC Presidents Podcast!
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Today, Abbie is joined by some past (and future!) presidents of the American Society for Cybernetics  to discuss the past (and future!) of the ASC Organization and the field of Cybernetics.
These conversations were recorded onsite in Ouro Preto, Minas Gerais, Brazil, at the 2026 ASC Conference in August 2026. 
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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Welcome to the ASC Participant Podcast!
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Today, Abbie is joined by the participants of the 2026 American Society for Cybernetics Conference in Ouro Preto, Brazil, to reflect on their experiences of this gathering. In this episode, you will hear from 8 conference participants who stopped to speak with Abbie during the in-person conference. 
These conversations were recorded onsite in Ouro Preto, Minas Gerais, Brazil, at the 2026 ASC Conference in August 2026. 
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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What is the 'minimal structure' needed to find  or create liberation?
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Today, Abbie and Keith discuss Liberating Structures, including where they come from and what is next. They talk about seemingly contradictory ideas like "strategic emergence," idealized design, and complexity science. 
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Keith McCandless is co-developer of Liberating Structures and co-author of the book The Surprising Power of Liberating Structures – Simple Rules to Unleash a Culture of Innovation (2014) and The Liberating Structures Fieldbook: Flipping the Script on Meetings, Planning, and Progress. Keith operates a global consulting practice focused on strategy development, creative adaptability, and including all voices in shaping next steps. He calls himself a structured improvisationalist. 

Born in Cincinnati Ohio, he holds a Masters in Management from Brandeis University in Boston and a BA from The Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington. Keith lives in Seattle with his wife, Anne, and Bootsy, a whippet with talent to amuse. 
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Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created, produced & hosted by Abbie VanMeter.
Stories Lived. Stories Told. is an initiative of the CMM Institute for Personal and Social Evolution.
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Music for Stories Lived. Stories Told. is created by Rik Spann.
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