Christ Over All

ABOUT THE EPISODE
Listen in as David Schrock & Trent Hunter interview Charles Lyons and Jordan Howe on their respective articles for Christ Over All and Center for Baptist Leadership
Timestamps
00:25 – Intro
03:43 – The incident at Cities Church Hits Close to Home
06:08 – How David Met Charles Lyons
08:00 – Charles Lyons’ Story
22:32 – Having a Plan in Place
26:23 – Distinguishing Between Different Incidents & What to Do
28:48 – How to Onboard Well for a Safety Team
33:08 – What Did It Look Like for the Ushers to Remove Disruptors?
37:32 – What Should Be Said to Them? What Type of Force is Righteous in that Situation?
41:54 – The Value of Having Song and Other Strategies to Have in Mind
45:50 – The Mind of the Pastor in the Moment to Act
49:00 – Closing Thoughts & Ending on a Note of Song
54:10 – Closing Prayer from Trent
55:58 – Outro
 Resources to Click
“Protestors are Coming to Your Church Are You Ready? Twenty-Five Action Steps Before the Day Comes” – Charles Lyons
“When Worship is Attacked, Churches Must Be Prepared to Restore Order” – Jordan Howe
Kingdom Defense Ministries
City Hope International
Theme of the Month: The God Who is There: Contemplating the Doctrine of God
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We want to abolish abortion. And we can do that better when we are united in making incremental political victories.
Resources to Click
“Incrementalists and Abolition Together?” – Ryan Helfenbein
“Voters in Kanasas decide to keep abortion legal in the state, rejecting an amendment” – Dylan Lysen, Laura Ziegler, Blaise Mesa
“Kentucky Amendment 2: Exclude Right to Abortion from Constitution Amendment (2022)” – Ballotpedia
“Ohio Issue 1, Right to Make Reproductive Decisions Including Abortion Initiative (2023)” – Ballotpedia
“Medication Abortions Accounted for 63% of All US Abortions in 2023, an Increase from 53% in 2020” – Guttmacher Institute
Lousiana State Legislature, HB 813, 2022 Regular Session
Indiana General Assembly, HB 1539, 2021 Session
“Anti-abortion groups split over proposal that could make SC’s ban the strictest nationwide” – Sklar Laird
“I Was an Anti-Abortion Crusader. Now I support Roe v. Wade” – Rob Schenck
“An Open Letter to State Lawmakers from America’s Leading Pro-Life Organizations” – National Right to Life
“Ballot Tracker: Abortion-Related State Constitutional Amendment Measures Confirmed for the 2024 Election in 10 States” – KFF
“Results for abortion-related ballot measures, 2024” – Ballotpedia
Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
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Listen in as David Schrock and Stephen Wellum interview Ginna Cross on her COA Article "Is Every Woman Who Pursues Abortion a Victim?: The Feminist Capture of the Pro-Life Movement"
Timestamps
00:50 – Intro
05:27 – Ginna Cross’ Background and How She Became Interested in the Life Issue
09:17 – What is Unique about Alliance Family Services?
11:42 – Being an Abolitionist and Part of Pregnancy Care Center
12:48 – Dr. Wellum and His Wife’s Ministry in Pregnancy Care Centers
14:30 – How Did Ginna Become an Abolitionist?
21:05 – What is the Counsel That is Given at Most Pregnancy Care Centers?
24:26 – Poor Theology Gives Way to Poor Counsel and Poor Presentation of the Gospel
29:36 – Abolitionists are Concerned about Pregnancy Care Centers
34:38 – The Weakening of the Pro-Life Movement
38:54 – Feminism and A Therapeutic Approach in the Pro-Life Movement
43:57 – If It is Legal It is Moral
50:44 – The Place for Men in The Fight Against Abortion
57:26 – The Need to See What is at Stake
1:01:38 – Where You Can Contact Ginna
1:03:00 – Outro
 Resources to Click
“Is Every Woman Who Pursues Abortion a Victim?: The Feminist Capture of the Pro-Life Movement” – Ginna Cross
Alliance Family Services
Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
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Listen in to a special interview as COA's David Schrock and Stephen Wellum are joined by Steve Deace to talk about the best way to strategize and save lives, including a breakdown of the state of the Pro-Life and Abolitionist movements.
Timestamps
00:42 – Intro
05:16 – How Do We Think About Incrementalism & Abolitionism? What is Most Effective?
13:30 – What are Steps We Can Take to Disciple Zealous Brothers?
22:17 – What is Recommended for Our Churches?
26:57 – What Media is Most Effective in This Battle?
30:50 – The Groundwork that Must Be Laid
32:36 – What Would You Say for Pastors Who Consider This Too Political?
36:27 – Outro
Resources
The Steve Deace Show
The SBC’s Turning Point (ft. Steve Deace) – Center For Baptist Leadership
Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
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What is more sterilizing and depersonalizing than a simple pill? Sadly, in a post-Dobbs world, the abortion pill as been used to perpetuate the slaughter of children in states that have supposedly strict restrictions on the practice. Read as Senator Dusty Deevers explains how the Pro-life movement has been unable to answer the question of “abortion pills.”
Resources to Click
“Equal Protection or Bust: Why Abolitionists Have the Only Answer to the Abortion Pill Crisis” – Dusty Deevers
“Abortion Trends Before and After Dobbs” – Karen Diep, Bryana Castillo Sanchez, Usha Ranji, and Alina Salganicoff
“LifeNews Lies” – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
Students for Life Action X Post
“Babies Unprotected: An Analysis of Self-Induced Abortion Numbers in States with “Bans”” – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
ABORTION is Still Legal in All 50 States – Abolitionists Rising
EPIC Speech at Oklahoma Capitol by Abolitionist Pastor Dusty Deevers – Abolitionists Rising
“Pro-Life Texas State Rep. Jeff Leach Delivers Death Sentence to 110,000 Preborn Human Beings” – James Silberman
“An Open Letter to State Lawmakers from America’s Leading Pro-Life Organizations”
Oklahoma | SB 456 | Judiciary Committee Hearing (2025) – Foundation to Abolish Abortion
Theme of the Month: Abolishing Abortion, Advocating for Life
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