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Stop Building AI Agents. Build AI Employees Instead (Live Demo) | Pedro Franceschi
13/09/2026 | 47 minPedro is widely respected as one of the most AI-pilled CEOs out there. His hot take is that “agents” is a terrible name. Instead, he showed me what you should build: AI employees that have a defined job, skills, manager, and budget. Pedro also did a live demo of how he still uses OpenClaw to stay on top of his $5B business.
Pedro and I talked about:
(00:00) Build AI employees, not AI agents
(05:23) Why Pedro spends half his time reviewing work
(12:32) Live demo: Jim, Brex’s AI recruiting employee
(21:24) Why Brex makes engineers build with AI in interviews
(22:33) CrabTrap: How to stop AI employees from leaking data
(27:30) The tokenmaxxing bill is coming. Here’s how to control it
(40:45) Live demo: Pedro’s OpenClaw system runs his life
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/stop-building-ai-agents-build-ai-employees-insead-pedro-franceschi-brex
Where to find Pedro:
X: https://x.com/pedroh96
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pfranceschi/
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Sue is the co-founder and CEO of Brilliant, an interactive learning platform with 10M+ learners. I asked her how AI can help kids learn without doing their thinking for them, and she played back a real session with Koji, Brilliant’s AI tutor. If you’re building AI products or raising kids, watch how it helps a student work through a mistake without handing over the answer.
We talked about:
(00:00) Why AI should make kids think harder
(01:34) Why test scores are down while grades are up
(09:41) Koji: An AI tutor that won’t give you the answer
(18:05) Why humans design lessons and AI builds them
(22:25) Primitives: The building blocks behind Brilliant’s AI
(29:30) Testing AI lessons with simulated students
(32:10) Measuring learning, not lesson completion
(34:39) Sue’s rule for competing with the big AI labs
(39:10) How to raise kids who enjoy doing hard things
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Where to find Sue:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sue-khim-70b86014/
Brilliant: https://brilliant.org
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As head of product engineering at Replit, Amol has a firsthand look at which vibe-coded apps become real businesses. He showed me three apps built by non-coders that reached six figures, then walked through his 4-step process to take a prototype to production — publishing, security, monetization, and distribution.
Amol and I talked about:
(00:00) He built an app in 3 days that made $100K+ in month one
(02:08) Three vibe-coded apps that became real businesses
(08:04) What six-figure vibe-coded apps have in common
(12:31) Live demo: Turn an AI interview coach into a real business
(13:59) Steps 1 and 2: Publish the app and make it secure
(17:50) Steps 3 and 4: Add payments and optimize SEO
(21:35) How to replace expensive SaaS with internal tools
(28:22) What software survives when code costs almost nothing
(31:02) Why value is moving from models to apps
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-non-coders-are-vibe-coding-100k-businesses-with-ai-amol-jain-replit
Where to find Amol:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jainamol
Website: https://replit.com
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Shreya and Hamel teach the industry standard course for AI evaluations taken by 4,500+ students from OpenAI, Google, and more. In our interview, I asked them to give live feedback on the AI evals that I built for my skills and demo how anyone can run evals with ChatGPT/Claude and their free evals skill. Don’t miss this up to date primer on evals from the real experts. 🙂
P.S., I asked Shreya and Hamel to give my audience 25% off the next cohort of their AI evals course. It has 4.7 stars with 900 reviews which is almost unheard of on Maven. Sign up via the link here: https://maven.com/parlance-labs/evals?utm_campaign=peteryang&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=maven&promoCode=PETERYANG
We talked about:
(00:00) Why AI evals are completely different now with the latest models
(02:30) Demo: Live audit of the evals that I built for my AI skills
(05:14) Top down vs. bottom up evals and why AI sucks at the latter
(08:16) Spinning up AI agents to grade each eval criteria
(14:32) Demo: Using Shreyas AI skill to run evals in Claude
(23:46) How to review output labels to identify failures
(34:37) How to turn failures into reusable evals
(43:19) Where human judgement is still needed
Resources mentioned:
Free eval skills from Shreya: https://github.com/ai-evals-course/evals-skills
Do automated evals work?: https://parlance-labs.com/blog/posts/auto-evals/
Thanks to our sponsors:
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-build-better-ai-evals-with-claude-code-shreya-hamel
Where to find Shreya and Hamel:
Shreya: https://www.sh-reya.com/
Hamel: https://hamel.dev/
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Riley is a top AI creator and founder of Agent Native. In this episode, he showed me how he uses Codex to run his entire content business from generating engaging thumbnails to writing incredible video hooks. Riley also shared his full AI stack including some lesser known AI tools to edit videos, draw diagrams, and more.
We talked about:
(00:00) How Codex runs Riley’s 1.5M+ follower content business
(03:16) Demo: Using Codex to create animations and B-roll
(07:28) Demo: Codex can reverse-engineer a top YouTube hook
(13:24) The BRENS framework to turn an idea into a strong hook
(17:24) Demo: Riley’s Codex stack for diagrams, thumbnails, and posts
(22:01) How Riley creates so much content every week
(25:41) Demo: Using Codex and Paper for viral YouTube thumbnails
(35:01) How to set up AI agents to find content ideas proactively
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-i-run-my-content-business-with-codex-riley-brown
Where to find Riley:
Agent Native, Riley’s new company: https://agentnative.inc/
X: https://x.com/rileybrown
Website: https://rileybrown.xyz/
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