Behind the Craft

Jared is a Builder in Residence at Cognition, the team behind Devin. He showed me why teams often overbuild their first agents, and how simple prompts, better tools, and self-testing work together instead. Then he demoed one manager agent breaking down a task, directing 10 cloud agents, and deciding what a human needs to review.

Jared and I talked about:
(00:00) Why teams overbuild their first AI agent
(02:50) Let the model cook before adding rules
(03:16) Why tools matter more than better prompts
(10:51) Why you should build evals after shipping
(16:06) What cloud agents can do that local agents can’t
(20:30) How to get one agent to manage other agents
(25:39) Demo: One agent launches a team of 10
(28:03) How agents prove their work before you review it
(33:18) The best tasks for agent teams to work on

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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/how-to-build-ai-agents-that-check-their-own-work-jared-cognition-devin

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Where to find Jared:

X: https://x.com/imjaredz
Devin: https://devin.ai

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As a product manager for OpenAI Codex, Rohan has a firsthand look at how one of the most AI-native teams in the world operates. He showed me how he uses Codex to trigger work from Slack replies, prototype designs with image generation, replace stale PRDs with live project sites, and more. Watch this episode if you’re tired of all the nonsense around “AI-native PM” and want to see how a real one actually operates.

Rohan and I talked about:
(00:00) Codex can do more than you think
(01:53) Use Codex to pull context from Slack, docs, Linear, and email
(03:28) How Codex flips planning from docs to demos
(13:14) Demo: Do the task once with Codex, then automate it
(14:30) Demo: Trigger Codex automations from Slack replies
(17:26) Demo: Use Image Gen to explore design variants fast
(19:58) Demo: Turn any Codex thread into a reusable skill
(29:55) Demo: Turn project context into a shareable Site
(33:33) Use one Codex thread to manage other Codex threads
(37:18) Aim 10x more ambitious than feels reasonable

Thanks to our sponsors:
Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craft
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/openai-pm-reveals-how-he-uses-codex-for-product-work-rohan-varma

📌 Get my personal AI OS with useful AI skills, $270 in AI tool credits, live monthly workshops, and courses on Hermes and Codex agents: https://www.behindthecraft.com/

Where to find Rohan:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rohannvarma
X: https://x.com/TheRohanVarma
Codex: https://openai.com/codex/

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As product lead at Anthropic, Jess has a first-hand look at how Anthropic teams are moving from prompting AI to building long-running agents that work overnight. In our episode, Jess showed me how to build a Claude analytics agent from scratch, then covered how Anthropic PMs use agents internally to understand the codebase, monitor customer feedback, and make better product decisions.

Jess and I talked about:

(00:00) AI agents that work while you sleep
(03:46) Claude Managed Agents help for long-running tasks
(05:22) Demo: Building a Claude analyst agent from scratch
(09:28) Traces: How to see where an agent got stuck
(15:08) Evals: How agents grade their own work
(20:16) 5 ways in which Anthropic PMs use agents internally
(28:06) Processing a 4,000-company waitlist with agents
(32:47) To build your first agent, focus on helping one person
(36:47) What changes when agents can work overnight

Thanks to our sponsors:
Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craft
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/inside-anthropics-bet-on-claude-agents-jess-yan

📌 Get my personal AI operating system with all my skills and prompts: https://www.behindthecraft.com/

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X: https://x.com/jess__yan
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Bin and Jake built HyperFrames, HeyGen’s free open-source tool that turns HTML into professional product launch videos. In this episode, they shared how you can one-shot a launch video for any website. Jake also walked through his personal playbook to make amazing videos with AI — from storyboarding to reusing components to polish.

We talked about:
(00:00) From HTML to professional video with AI
(02:37) How to install HyperFrames in Codex or Claude Code
(04:50) Demo: Make a launch video in one shot from Spotify.com
(10:47) Jake’s workflow to level up AI videos
(13:06) frame.md: Turn brand guidelines into video direction
(15:05) storyboard.md: Write the story before building scenes
(17:31) HyperFrames launches: Reuse HeyGen’s real components
(20:17) Get AI to generate static frames for review before rendering
(22:46) Studio: Make visual edits and final polish

Thanks to our sponsors:
Linear: The AI agent platform for modern teams https://linear.app/behind-the-craft
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/full-tutorial-make-professional-launch

📌 Get my personal AI operating system with all my skills and prompts: https://www.behindthecraft.com/

Where to find Bin and Jake:
Bin: https://x.com/liu8in
Jake: https://x.com/JakeFromHeyGen
HyperFrames: https://github.com/heygen-com/hyperframes

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Matt has no CS degree, doesn’t know how to code, and doesn’t even read the plans that AI writes. Despite this, he’s built an incredible open source track record with projects like last30days (#1 trending on GitHub with 40K+ stars) and Printing Press (a tool that lets agents use any website or app). Matt has been a huge inspiration for my AI builder journey, and I think you’ll feel the same after watching our conversation.
Matt and I talked about:
(00:00) "I don't read code and the plans are for AI"
(01:19) Compound Engineering: Matt’s go-to agentic loop
(07:07) How Matt builds without a CS degree or reading code
(11:18) Printing Press: Turning any website into an agent CLI
(15:38) How Printing Press finds hidden APIs and GitHub projects
(22:44) Why CLI + skill beats MCP for agent workflows
(32:49) How Matt contributes to Python, Go, and other top repos
(44:28) Why Matt is still afraid to launch finished projects
Thanks to our sponsors:
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📌 Get the takeaways: https://creatoreconomy.so/p/the-ai-agent-system-behind-this-non-technical-founder-matt-van-horn
📌 Get my personal AI operating system with all my skills and prompts: https://www.behindthecraft.com/
Where to find Matt:
X: https://x.com/mvanhorn
GitHub: https://github.com/mvanhorn
Printing Press: https://printingpress.dev
last30days: https://github.com/mvanhorn/last30days-skill
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