All Things Internal Audit

• Agentic AI in Internal Auditing

  The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Warren Stippich speaks with Ethan Rojhani about the evolving role of agentic artificial intelligence in internal auditing. They discuss how agentic AI differs from traditional AI, its impact on risk assessment, and the skills internal auditors will need to adapt. They talk about the ethical considerations, automation of controls testing, and the future of AI-driven audit execution. Host:  Warren Stippich, CIA, CRMA, CPA, national managing principal — Advisory Services Quality and Risk, Grant Thornton  Guest:  Ethan Rojhani, CPA, CFE, principal, Grant Thornton   Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:06] What is Agentic AI? [00:07-01:34] Key Differences Between Traditional AI and Agentic AI [01:35-05:45] The Future of Agentic AI in Internal Auditing [05:46-09:51] Real-world Applications of Agentic AI in Internal Audit [09:52-12:25] Shifting from Compliance to Advisory Roles [12:26-19:13] Ethical and Risk Considerations [19:14-25:51] The Future of Internal Auditors in an AI-driven World [25:52-30:34] Advice for Auditors on Adopting AI [30:35-33:02] Final Thoughts [33:03-36:04] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources:  The IIA's 2025 Analytics, Automation and AI Virtual Conference The IIA's Vision 2035 Report Knowledge Centers: Artificial Intelligence Auditing the Cybersecurity Program Certificate Implementing The IIA’s New Cybersecurity Topical Requirement Cybersecurity Topical Requirement "Undercover AI," Internal Auditor magazine  The IIA’s Updated AI Auditing Framework Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

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• 2025 North American Pulse Report

  The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Deborah Poulalion and Andy Cook break down the 2025 North American Pulse of Internal Audit report. They discuss emerging trends, challenges, and opportunities for internal auditors, covering issues like strategy, funding, and artificial intelligence. The 2025 North American Pulse of Internal Audit report is sponsored by AuditBoard. The public consultation for the Third-Party Topical Requirement is open! Review the draft and share your feedback by April 20, 2025. Visit this link to access the public consultation draft to have your say! Host: Deborah Poulalion, senior manager, Research & Insights, The IIA Guests: Andy Cook, CIA, director, Professional Guidance – Financial Services, The IIA Key Points:  Introduction (00:00-00:09) The North American Pulse of Internal Audit report (00:10-00:31) The impact of strategy and funding on internal audit (00:32-05:15) The shift toward advisory services (05:16-08:41) Technology risks and cybersecurity challenges (08:42-10:45) The growing importance of data analytics (10:46-13:31) The role of generative artificial Intelligence in internal audit (13:32-16:57) Expanding responsibilities of chief audit executives (16:58-19:10) Audit planning and resource allocation (19:11-22:36) Gender trends in internal audit leadership (22:37-24:10) Remote work trends in internal audit (24:11-28:41) The Global Internal Audit Standards and available resources (28:42-29:40) Final thoughts and closing remarks (29:41-30:25) The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: The IIA's Research & Reports Center 2025 Risk in Focus Standards Knowledge Center Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: The IIA's 2025 North American Pulse Of Internal Audit The IIA's Global Internal Audit Standards The IIA's Vision 2035 Report The IIA's Public Consultation for Third-Party Topical Requirement Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

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• Advisory Work: How to Consult

  The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit In this episode, Mike Levy talks with Mike Jacka about the growing role of advisory services in internal auditing. They discuss how today’s internal auditors are offering strategic insights that go beyond assurance work. They also cover how to balance objectivity with advisory work, how to fit advisory into audit planning, and how to show the value of these services. Host: Mike Levy, CIA, CRMA, chief executive officer and managing principal, Cherry Hill Advisory  Guests: Mike Jacka, CIA, CPA, CPCU, CLU, chief creative pilot at Flying Pig Audit, Consulting and Training Solutions  Key Points:  Introduction [00:00-00:06] The role of advisory services in internal audit [00:07-00:27] Balancing objectivity with advisory work [00:28-02:06] Early engagement and its impact on risk management [02:07-04:49] Real-world example: social media consulting [04:50-05:56] Advisory services in small vs. large internal audit functions [05:57-07:06] Pre-implementation reviews as a key advisory opportunity [07:07-09:32] Addressing the fear of losing objectivity in advisory work [09:33-10:45] Demonstrating advisory value to audit committees [10:46-14:08] Using assurance work to identify advisory opportunities [14:09-17:02] Developing skill sets for effective advisory work [17:03-19:03] The impact of strong relationships and trust in internal audit [19:04-22:41] How the Global Internal Audit Standards support advisory services [22:42-26:06] Fostering an advisory mindset within audit teams [26:07-28:18] Strategies for internal auditors to enhance their influence [28:19-30:37] Final thoughts and advice for internal auditors [30:38-32:00] The IIA Related Content: Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Learning Solutions: The Advisory Engagement Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned: The IIA's Complete Global Internal Audit Standards The IIA's Cybersecurity Topical Requirement The IIA’s External Quality Assessment (EQA) The IIA’s Emerging Leaders Mentoring Program Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

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• Identity & Access Management

  The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Bill Truett talks with Nick Lasenko about the critical role of identity and access management in today’s organizations. They discuss common risks, best practices, and the impact of AI on identity and access management. The conversation also covers frameworks, regulatory requirements, and real-world use cases. Host:  Bill Truett, CIA, CISA, senior manager, Standards & Professional Guidance, IT,  The IIA Guest: Nick Lasenko, CISA, CISSP, cybersecurity, privacy, and risk management practitioner Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:07] Overview of identity and access management [00:00:08-00:00:31] The financial impact of data breaches [00:00:32-00:01:26] Challenges in detecting and responding to security incidents [00:01:27-00:02:26] Common identity and access management risks for auditors [00:02:27-00:03:26] Weak governance and its implications [00:03:27-00:04:26] Siloed organizations and identity and access management complexities [00:04:27-00:05:26] Regulatory frameworks and standards [00:05:27-00:07:26] Identity and access management controls and data governance [00:07:27-00:09:26] Real-world use cases and security incidents [00:09:27-00:11:26] Horror stories and lessons learned in identity and access management [00:11:27-00:13:26] Best practices for managing user access reviews [00:13:27-00:16:26] Continuous authentication and its challenges [00:16:27-00:18:26] Privileged access management and audit considerations [00:18:27-00:21:26] The impact of AI and machine learning on identity and access management [00:21:27-00:23:26] Final thoughts on strengthening identity and access management controls [00:23:27-00:25:26] Closing remarks [00:25:27-00:31:43] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Intermediate IT Auditing Auditing IT Change Management GTAG: Auditing Identity and Access Management, 2nd Edition Fraud and Emerging Tech: Identity and Authentication with the Paycheck Protection Program Implementing The IIA’s New Cybersecurity Topical Requirement Cybersecurity Topical Requirement Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned The IIA's 2025 Analytics, Automation and AI Virtual Conference The IIA’s Updated AI Auditing Framework NIST Cybersecurity Framework (CSF) NIST AI Risk Management Framework IBM Cost of a Data Breach Report 2024 CISA and NSA Guidance on Identity and Access Management Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

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• Fraud Analytics in Investigations

  The Institute of Internal Auditors Presents: All Things Internal Audit Tech In this episode, Ernest Anunciacion and Tom Keaton discuss the evolving role of fraud analytics in internal auditing. They cover how data analytics and AI can improve fraud detection and prevention, along with the challenges and practical strategies for success. Host:  Ernest Anunciacion, CIA, head of product marketing, MindBridge Guest:  Tom Keaton, CIA, CRMA, CFE, CISA, director of Internal Audit, Crown Castle Key Points Introduction [00:00-00:00:06] Ernest’s background [00:00:07-00:00:54] Tom’s background [00:00:55-00:01:50] Impact of data analytics and AI on fraud detection [00:01:51-00:04:27] Challenges in implementing data analytics in internal audit [00:04:28-00:07:06] Using data analytics for fraud investigation [00:07:07-00:09:32] Predictive analytics and identifying fraud trends [00:09:33-00:12:06] Continuous monitoring vs. early warning dashboards [00:12:07-00:15:45] Skills required for fraud analytics [00:15:46-00:19:03] Role of AI in fraud investigations [00:19:04-00:24:04] Future of AI in internal audit [00:24:05-00:25:27] Interesting fraud investigation stories [00:25:28-00:29:00] Closing remarks [00:29:01-00:30:03] The IIA Related Content Interested in this topic? Visit the links below for more resources: Fraud Analytics for Internal Auditors Certificate Targeting Fraud With Data Analytics Global Knowledge Brief: Data Analytics: Part 2: Gathering, Understanding, and Visualizing Data Visit The IIA's website or YouTube channel for related topics and more. Resources Mentioned The IIA’s Updated AI Auditing Framework 2025 Fraud Virtual Conference Follow All Things Internal Audit: Apple PodcastsSpotify LibsynDeezer

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