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Katayune Kaeni, Psy.D., PMH-C
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  • 415: An Inside Look at the ”So Glad You Asked” Podcast with Dr. Ruta Nonacs and Allie Hales
    We just celebrated Mother’s Day, which may not have been what you expected. It can be a complicated day when people don’t show up or recognize you as you deserve. I want to acknowledge the complex feelings that come with Mother’s Day and say that you aren’t alone in experiencing those emotions. Whatever your Mother's Day brought you, I hope you feel recognized and supported. Today, we are bringing you another great episode during Maternal Mental Health Month as we uncover the purpose of a new podcast filling a gap for many people. Join us to learn more about this vital resource! Allie Hales, a mom of four, is passionate about making reliable, relevant information available for moms like herself. She graduated from the J. Reuben Clark Law School at Brigham Young University and is a member of the Massachusetts Bar. She serves on Brigham and Women’s Hospital’s Newborn Medicine and Reproductive Health Advisory Board, Newton-Wellesley Hospital’s Maternal Services Council, and is actively involved with the Boston Center for Endometriosis. Allie grew up in the suburbs of Boston and currently lives in Baltimore with her four children and her husband, Riley, a resident in anesthesia at Johns Hopkins Hospital.  Dr. Ruta Nonacs completed a perinatal and reproductive psychiatry fellowship at Massachusetts General Hospital. She is a clinical instructor at Harvard Medical School, a senior psychiatrist with the Center for Women’s Mental Health at Massachusetts General Hospital, and the creator and editor-in-chief of their website,⁠ ⁠⁠womensmentalhealth.org⁠. She, with Allie Hales, co-hosts the new podcast,⁠ So Glad You Asked⁠. Dr. Ruta’s work has been published in numerous scientific journals and books, and she is the author of⁠ A Deeper Shade of Blue: A Woman's Guide to Recognizing and Treating Depression in Her Childbearing Years. ⁠ Show Highlights: Highlights of Dr. Ruta’s path to her current work Allie’s lived experience in her mental health journey and her connection to Dr. Ruta Barriers to getting information and accessing treatment The importance of lived experience in developing solutions and strategies Moms, questions, and a new podcast Giving a voice to “regular moms” and providing evidence-based solutions Major topics planned for upcoming podcast episodes (Dr. Ruta and Allie have a huge list!) The connection between the podcast and a resource hub at ⁠womensmentalhealth.org⁠ Accessible information IS preventative. The podcast schedule and plans for the first season Dr. Ruta and Allie’s hopes and dreams for their podcast to empower and support women Resources: Connect with Dr. Ruta Nonacs and Allie Hales:⁠ Women's Mental Health website⁠,⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ So Glad You Asked⁠ podcast, and⁠ A Deeper Shade of Blue: A Woman's Guide to Recognizing and Treating Depression in Her Childbearing Years⁠. Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit⁠ cdph.ca.gov⁠ Please find resources in English and Spanish at⁠ Postpartum Support International⁠, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and most other platforms Visit⁠ www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/⁠ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website,⁠ www.wellmindperinatal.com⁠, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, ⁠email me⁠ about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • 414: The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood" with Author Sarah Hoover
    This week is Maternal Mental Health Week, and many organizations are joining us in being as loud as possible to spread the word that these conditions do exist, that mothers need support, and that resources are available. Sharing people’s stories on this podcast is how I help spread the message, and today’s episode focuses on Sarah’s motherhood story and the memoir she has written to help others. Join us! Sarah Hoover is a writer, cultural critic, and former Gagosian director whose work spans art, fashion, motherhood, and feminism. She just released a new book, The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood, a beautiful, vulnerable, raw, and very real story of her motherhood experience. Her writing highlights some ways that we, as a society, are failing mothers, and Sarah’s writing shares what she went through in her pregnancy, birth, and postpartum journey. Her debut memoir is a darkly funny, unfiltered critique of modern motherhood, praised by Oprah Daily as a “long overdue reality check.” After earning degrees from NYU and Columbia, Sarah built a career in the art world before turning to writing. Her essays on motherhood, identity, and cultural expectations have appeared in multiple publications, and she is the co-founder of the accelerator committee at American Valley Theater, in addition to serving on the board of the Art Production Fund. She makes her home in Manhattan with her husband and two children.  Show Highlights: Sarah’s story of her first pregnancy triggered memories and disconnection from her baby A “perfect storm of triggers”! Sarah’s situation: She wasn’t enjoying anything about motherhood and lied to everyone with parroted responses about being “fine.” Rebuilding her identity without her career Instead of joy, Sarah felt depleted, stuck, and unseen. A breakdown of Sarah’s relationship with her mother and her views of motherhood Finding support and help—finally! Huge gaps in the questionnaire for postpartum moms—we can do better! Breaking down the wall of shame to be honest and vulnerable It’s healthy to complain! Share your feelings! Healing and finding connection with her son Sarah’s second pregnancy, when she was determined to do things differently and advocate for herself An overview of Sarah’s book—it’s not just for moms! Resources: Connect with Sarah Hoover: Website, Instagram, and The Motherload: Episodes from the Brink of Motherhood Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • 413: Encore! In Conversation with Alanis Morissette and Postpartum Support International
    Today, May 1, is the first day of Maternal Mental Health Awareness Month. I’m bringing back this special episode from last year; it’s a listener favorite, one of my favorites, and one of our most popular downloads. I’m deeply honored to share my interview with Grammy Award-winning singer-songwriter, thought leader, and wholeness advocate, Alanis Morissette! She is joined by the president and CEO of Postpartum Support International, Dr. Wendy Davis. Alanis has given much of her time, heart, energy, and effort to raise awareness about maternal mental health. In our conversation, she shares vulnerable and enlightening peeks into her personal experience, and her feelings mirror what many suffering women feel.  Alanis found PSI as a resource when she was dealing with perinatal mental health challenges, and she has openly shared about the value of PSI resources while on tour. In addition to being a long-time, powerful presence in the music world, she has become an equally influential advocate for mental health. She has been vocal about experiencing postpartum depression, or “postpartum activity,” as she has referred to it. In our conversation, she shares like never before what her experience was like, how it impacted her life, and how she has found her way to healing. Being in the public eye as a well-known performer has brought a whole other level of pressure and scrutiny to Alanis’ life experiences under the bright–and sometimes stinging–light of celebrity. Dr. Wendy Davis began as a volunteer with PSI in 1997, became the executive director in 2009, and later became the president and CEO. She was drawn to this work after healing from postpartum depression and has become a passionate advocate and leader in the world of perinatal mental health. I’ve been privileged to see Wendy in action at PSI and work closely with her in my role as the Board Chair. Her heart-centered and help-centered approach to leadership has grown PSI into the leading perinatal mental health non-profit in the world today. Show Highlights: ● Alanis’ struggle to balance the people-pleasing life of a celebrity with “the dark swamp of depression” that nobody wanted to see or hear ● Being a high-achieving perfectionist who is self-reliant and autonomous puts a person at a greater risk for postpartum depression. ● Figuring out the archetype of “mom” is a lifelong journey. ● Understanding how the 90s rock and roll scene was a strongly patriarchal environment that left Alanis feeling more isolated and less connected ● Alanis’ experience with anger, rage, panic attacks, and a loss of identity ● Tenderness, love, and empowerment in motherhood ● Our immense gratitude for Alanis’ impact as a fierce advocate and champion of PSI’s work and helpful resources Resources: Connect with Alanis Morissette: Find out more about Alanis’ music and events on her⁠ Website⁠; follow Alanis on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and⁠ YouTube⁠ Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • 412: From Postpartum Depression to Creating Connections for Moms with Allison Kushner, founder of BeeKyn
    It’s always uplifting to hear how some people are inspired to turn the worst experience into something positive to help others. Join us to hear Alli’s story of postpartum depression, healing, and a remarkable avenue of support and connection for other moms.  Alli Kushner is an entrepreneur, community builder, and passionate advocate for parents navigating the complexities of modern life. As the founder of⁠ BeeKyn⁠, an innovative platform that reimagines how families connect through meaningful playdates, Alli is on a mission to make parenthood less isolating and more fulfilling. Alli is the mother of two young girls and shares her deeply personal journey through postpartum depression. The challenges she faced became the opportunity to create a supportive space for parents everywhere in BeeKyn.  Show Highlights: Alli’s story: what she expected vs. her reality in becoming a mom An unexpected identity crisis  Pregnancy problems that threw “the plan” out the window for Alli’s first pregnancy Knowing things weren’t “right”  Alli’s recognition of “baby blues” (which later turned into PPD) The gap in Ob-gyn and pediatric care when a healthy baby arrives, but mom is not okay Alli’s experience in returning to work earlier than necessary, because that was the world she understood and could control Feeling numb, angry, and unsure about motherhood, just wanting to get away (for the first six months) Feeling like “everyone would be better off without me” How Alli’s husband insisted that she get professional help because he didn’t know how to help her Alli’s “Aha moment” on an outing in NYC, realizing that this is “not normal” How Alli noticed the slow unfolding of improvement as the result of a daily therapy/rehab program Sharing her story helped Alli realize the need for more attention on postpartum depression and the feelings of isolation and loneliness The benefits of BeeKyn’s platform for families Resources: Connect with Alli Kushner and BeeKyn:⁠ Website⁠ and⁠ LinkedIn⁠ Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit⁠ cdph.ca.gov⁠ Please find resources in English and Spanish at⁠ Postpartum Support International⁠, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media:⁠ Instagram⁠,⁠ Facebook⁠, and most other platforms Visit⁠ www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/⁠ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website,⁠ www.wellmindperinatal.com⁠, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me⁠ about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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  • 411: “NORMALIZE IT: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives”
    It’s no secret that silence, stigma, and shame surround many of the major moments of grief and loss in women’s lives, especially during pregnancy loss. Today’s guest shares her personal story, along with her professional perspective as a psychologist, author, and respected voice in social media. Join us to hear the conversation. Dr. Jessica Zucker is a Los Angeles-based psychologist specializing in reproductive health, and she holds advanced degrees from NYU and Harvard. She’s the author of the award-winning book, I Had A Miscarriage: A Memoir, A Movement and is the creator of the viral hashtag, I Had A Miscarriage Campaign. She has been featured on NPR, CNN, the Today Show, and Good Morning America, and her writing has appeared in the NY Times, Washington Post, NY Magazine, Vogue, Harvard Business Review, and others. Today’s conversation focuses on Jessica’s second book, Normalize It: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives, newly released on April 22, 2025. Jessica shares her personal experience through miscarriage and a breast cancer diagnosis, and how her motherhood journey has been profoundly impacted by silence, stigma, and shame.  Show Highlights: Jessica’s inspiration to write her most recent book, Normalize It Jessica’s traumatic miscarriage experience that changed the course of her life The purpose behind Normalize It, which offers a compassionate invitation to women Our culture teaches women to have silence, stigma, and shame. If we ALL spoke our truth . . .(just imagine the possibilities!) Common platitudes minimize our pain and can alienate and isolate those who are hurting. Jessica’s breast cancer experience compared to her miscarriage experience Why Jessica doesn’t like the term “warrior” when referring to her resilience Living with tamoxifen, which blocks estrogen and brings early menopause symptoms What the research reveals around silence, stigma, and shame Resources: Connect with Dr. Jessica Zucker: Website, Instagram, Normalize It: Upending the Silence, Stigma, and Shame That Shape Women’s Lives, and I Had A Miscarriage Call the National Maternal Mental Health Hotline at 1-833-TLC-MAMA or visit cdph.ca.gov Please find resources in English and Spanish at Postpartum Support International, or by phone/text at 1-800-944-4773. There are many free resources, like online support groups, peer mentors, a specialist provider directory, and perinatal mental health training for therapists, physicians, nurses, doulas, and anyone who wants to be more supportive in offering services.  You can also follow PSI on social media: Instagram, Facebook, and most other platforms Visit www.postpartum.net/professionals/certificate-trainings/ for information on the grief course.   Visit my website, www.wellmindperinatal.com, for more information, resources, and courses you can take today! If you are a California resident looking for a therapist in perinatal mental health, email me about openings for private pay clients! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
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