Mamamia Out Loud

It took the deliciously unhinged creative genius of Miranda July to invent a dating questionnaire that asks the questions no one else is brave enough to ask. Forget your height or if you like 'long walks on the beach'; Em is looking at the prompts that actually reveal your soul, like a photo of your bookshelves, your messy bed, or a screenshot of your ex describing you via text. So, what would you ask, to really get to know someone? And is the secret to finding love just showing someone the inside of your fridge?
There’s a name for that 'meh' feeling you have after a day at work: Office air. Thanks to a smart TikTok creator, Clare has finally figured out why we all look like 'sick Victorian children' by the time the clock strikes five.
Meanwhile, Nicole Kidman is currently on a promo circuit, but she isn't talking about her latest film. Instead, she’s opening up about her desire to become a death doula after the devastating loss of her mother. So Holly’s asking: What is a death doula? Why don’t work and caring and basically, life, stop for you to deal with losing a loved one? And how do we get better at understanding that the loss of a parent - even at an age deemed ‘appropriate’ - is often completely unmooring.
And finally, according to Vogue, nobody’s getting their nails done any more.
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This week’s recommendations:
BOOK: Heir Apparent by Rebecca Armitage. An "unputtdownable" and engaging novel from an Aussie journalist who knows the royals inside out.
TV SHOW: From on Stan. A nightmarish mystery series about a town in the US that traps anyone who enters
BOOK: Broken Country by Clare Leslie Hall. A love story that feels like a thriller, set in a 1950s farming village. Warning: you will cry.
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What to read:
Nicole Kidman was about to step on stage when she got the news that broke her heart.
Nicole Kidman has just spoken about her divorce from Keith Urban. One detail stood out.
'I stood in my kitchen waiting for my phone to buzz. That's when the grief finally hit me.'
Clare Stephens gives great book recommendations.
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First, a rundown of the scurrilous gossip you missed while you were actually working: Sydney Sweeney’s cameo’s been cut from The Devil Wears Prada 2, Harry Styles is either engaged or ring-baiting us and Kim Kardashian and Lewis Hamilton have hard-launched with a pap-frolic.
In other business, why is Reese Witherspoon suddenly telling all her followers to use AI? Is this a genuine attempt to close the gender tech-gap, or is Reese just the friendliest face the robots could recruit to crack Gen X?
In other business, we might be witnessing the most effective character-assassination comeback in history. While Lily Allen is currently touring an album that provides a literal receipt-by-receipt rundown of her marriage breakdown — complete with props explaining David Harbour’s alleged infidelity — her ex is busy being the most lovable man on TV in DTF St. Louis. Holly asks if playing someone lovable is the best way to rehabilitate an actor’s bad reputation? Let’s ask Noah Wyle and Adam Driver.
What can one of the world’s richest women (by marriage) tell us about happiness? No, please don’t throw your phone, Clare’s all ears for Lauren Sanchez Bezos’s gratitude tips.
And finally, we need to talk about the absolute tailspin that occurs when a Gen Z coworker compliments an older coworker’s outfit. Is it genuine praise, or a calculated power move? Amelia’s diving into millennial fashion anxiety and why a simple 'I love your jeans' can feel like a personal attack.
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What to read:
'I spent a day with Meryl Streep and Anne Hathaway. One moment changed my view on The Devil Wears Prada 2.'
Harry Styles refuses to repeat himself. On his fourth album, that's the whole point.
'Gen Z knows more about AI than their bosses. It's about to change how we all work.'
Lily Allen was alone in a London hotel room when David Harbour called. Nothing would be the same.
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Madonna crashed Sabrina Carpenter’s Coachella stage and it took the crowd a minute to realise they were in the presence of an(other) icon. Luckily, Madge had a bonus skill up her sleeve: An astrology lecture about Taurus season.
Holly Wainwright brings a few little nuggets that slipped out of Meghan Duchess’s fancy Sydney event on the weekend, including a new theme song.
Also, Kardashian whisperer and multi-millionaire businesswoman Emma Grede says remote work is a 'career killer' for women. She reckons if you aren’t seen, you aren’t getting promoted. Is flexibility actually costing women their next big move, or allowing women to do their dream jobs in the first place? Amelia Lester has a story about the presentee boss from hell.
In other business, we’re diving into the dark world of 'looksmaxxing' after an influencer’s viral breakdown. From 'bone-smashing' to dangerous supplements, why are young men falling for a happiness formula that clearly isn't working?
And the debate that won't die: Should teachers be banned from social media? Over the weekend a viral post asking whether educators should also be influencers has taken over Clare Stephens's algorithm.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: A Fight About Who’s Allowed To Have A Crush
Listen: Mia's Uncomfortable Aha Moment About Friendship
Listen: A Podcast Feud & Hanging Out With Prince Harry
Listen: She's Back! Mia Confronts Rival Anne Stephens On 'Nana Rules'
Listen: Quick Question: Why Are You So Annoying?
Listen: 'The Chatbot History That Ruined My Relationship’
Listen: Mia & Amelia On The Cheating Drama Everyone’s Talking About
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What to read:
Harry & Meghan are living Option 3.
Emma Grede cold-called Kris Jenner with an idea. Now she's worth $600 million.
Meghan Markle has only just arrived in Australia, but the most damning story about her has already been written.
'I spent a morning with Prince Harry. It wasn't at all like I expected.'
'We work with teenage girls every week. What we're hearing about boys is deeply concerning.'
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Is having a crush the secret to a happy relationship, or the gateway drug to a ruinous affair? We can’t agree. Meanwhile, comedian Nikki Glaser says that sexual cheating is a turn-on and emotional cheating is a no-no. Who’s right, who’s deluded, and who should just be single, according to Emily Vernem?
Plus, enthusiasm for hobbies is at an-all time high, but why does it feel like men get all the good ones, while women get the leftovers of leisure? Holly Wainwright talks about her life-changing gardening habit, but acknowledges it’s first to go when life gets busy. So what’s an untouchable 'Sovereign Hobby', and how do we get one?
And, there is an unofficial list of things women do to look like they have their shit together, and it involves everything from keeping whites white, to having enough coathangers, to knowing what stock is. Clare Stephens just wishes she could remember the snacks.
TV RECCOS SPECIAL
Clare’s watching: DTF St. Louis on HBO Max. A dark, nonlinear comedy about a love triangle, a dating app for married people, and David Harbour being incredibly likable.
Holly’s watching: Riot Women on SBS. Created by Happy Valley’s Sally Wainwright, it’s a brilliant look at five middle-aged women who decide to form a punk band.
Em’s watching: Margo’s Got Money Troubles on Apple TV. Starring Elle Fanning, Michelle Pfeiffer, and Nick Offerman, it’s the story of a college dropout navigating new motherhood and mounting bills.
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: Mia's Uncomfortable Aha Moment About Friendship
Listen: A Podcast Feud & Hanging Out With Prince Harry
Listen: She's Back! Mia Confronts Rival Anne Stephens On 'Nana Rules'
Listen: Quick Question: Why Are You So Annoying?
Listen: 'The Chatbot History That Ruined My Relationship’
Listen: Mia & Amelia On The Cheating Drama Everyone’s Talking About
Listen: The Hollywood Star Who Hates Everyone
Listen: Mia & Anne Stephens: A Nana Leaderboard
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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What to read:
Elle Fanning's brilliant new TV show is smart, sincere and occasionally sexy.
Put away your oversized blazer. This is what stylish women are wearing in 2026.
Nikki Glaser met her boyfriend on set in 2013. They've broken up five times since.
'Old-school hobbies are back. These 6 to try with your kids will convert you.'
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CREDITS:
Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Clare Stephens & Emily Vernem
Group Executive Producer: Ruth Devine
Executive Producer: Sasha Tannock
Video Producer: Josh Green
Junior Content Producer: Tessa Kotowicz
Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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So the ‘royal tour that isn’t’ is in full swing and we have an insider call from Melbourne. Our friend Amy Clark was hanging out with Harry at a men's mental health event this morning, and tells us everything, including which Australian celebrities upstaged the Duke/Prince. But as Harry and Meghan’s itinerary unfurls, Holly Wainwright asks: Is it ballsy or cheeky to be pulling off exactly the kind of tour once reserved for active, working royals?
Plus, as Susan Coyle becomes Australia’s first female Army Chief, the celebrations are almost being drowned out by the sexist trolling. The swampy internet discourse feels gutting for every woman who has ever worked her way to the top only to be met with a chorus of 'DEI hire'. Amelia Lester is unpacking: Should women just ignore the trolling these wins attract, or does that leave us living in a fake reality?
And, 'hey, girl'. Clare Stephens has researched to PhD level the 'Alex vs. Alix' podcast feud. We’ve got Alex Cooper (the Call Her Daddy mogul) and Alix Earle (the Hot Mess creator) throwing passive-aggressive shade over TikTok about 'fake drama' and 'rock bottom' content. Is it a manufactured publicity stunt for an upcoming interview? Or is there genuine jealousy over a Super Bowl commercial and (gosh) Adam Sandler cameos?
Meanwhile, over in Scurrilous Gossip, JLo is reportedly hooking up with Ted Lasso’s Roy Kent (aka Brett Goldstein), and we are invested. Apparently, he's the 'best kisser' she’s ever worked with, which is quite the claim. But is it real?
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What To Listen To Next:
Listen to our latest episode: She's Back! Mia Confronts Rival Anne Stephens On 'Nana Rules'
Listen: Quick Question: Why Are You So Annoying?
Listen: 'The Chatbot History That Ruined My Relationship’
Listen: Mia & Amelia On The Cheating Drama Everyone’s Talking About
Listen: The Hollywood Star Who Hates Everyone
Listen: Mia & Anne Stephens: A Nana Leaderboard
Listen: The One Number That Says Absolutely Everything About You
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Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts.
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Mamamia Out Loud on Apple
What to read:
Last time Harry and Meghan were here, it changed everything. This time, they're hoping the same.
Alix and Alex are fighting again.
It's easy to dismiss her, but you should know about the cult of Alex Cooper.
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Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast.
Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe
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