For The Love With Jen Hatmaker Podcast

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Some families run on rules nobody ever wrote down. Here is your role. Here is what we talk about. Here is who gets forgiven and who gets blamed. We accept those terms as children, and then one day we look up and wonder who exactly signed us up for the job.
August’s Jen Hatmaker Book Club pick is Little Monsters, and Adrienne Brodeur came with the whole story behind it. She spent thirty years on the other side of the pen, co-founding Zoetrope: All-Story with Francis Ford Coppola, editing at HMH Books, judging the National Book Award, and now running Aspen Words. She published one novel of her own in 2005, then waited fourteen years for the next book, a memoir that broke a silence she had kept since she was fourteen.
Adrienne and Jen get into the unspoken rules every family runs on, why estrangement takes love rather than indifference, and what Cain and Abel taught her about the gifts we give our parents. Adrienne explains why fiction can feel more honest than memoir, makes an unpopular case for Ken, and talks about writing mania with compassion rather than spectacle. Plus the stack of books a stepmother handed her that redirected her whole life, the screenplay she is writing, and the book club’s standing offer to cast the movie.
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Thought-provoking Quotes:
He’s wounded, and wounded people wound. – Adrienne Brodeur
Understanding someone isn’t quite the same as absolving them. – Adrienne Brodeur
Fiction can sometimes feel more honest than memoir. I don’t mean factual honesty. I mean emotionally unguarded. – Adrienne Brodeur
Who the hell decided that peacemaker was my job, or golden child, or secret keeper, or difficult one? – Adrienne Brodeur
Turns out dead mothers still have an excellent work ethic. – Adrienne Brodeur
Everyone wanted a flat version of themselves. – Jen Hatmaker
We have family stories that we’re telling too, even believing, that we’re trying to believe. – Jen Hatmaker
Some of our characters landed on their feet, but they landed on their feet in a different zip code. – Jen Hatmaker
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Little Monsters by Adrienne Brodeur - https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Little-Monsters/Adrienne-Brodeur/9781982198114
Little Monsters book club discussion questions - https://www.readinggroupguides.com/reviews/little-monsters-by-adrienne-brodeur/guide
Wild Game: My Mother, Her Lover, and Me by Adrienne Brodeur - https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/wild-game-adrienne-brodeur/1130010789
Man Camp by Adrienne Brodeur - https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/B001HN38FI
Aspen Words at the Aspen Institute - https://www.aspeninstitute.org/people/adrienne-brodeur/
Zoetrope: All-Story, co-founded with Francis Ford Coppola

Guest’s Links:
Adrienne’s Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/adriennebrodeur/
Adrienne’s Faceboo ...

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Jodi Picoult is back, and she brought her thirtieth novel with her.
If you have been in a book club at any point in the last thirty years, you know the name. Forty million copies in print. Thirty four languages. And, as of this year, the fourth most banned author in America, which Jen considers a five star review.
Jodi and Jen get into all of it: what thirty years of publishing actually teaches you (start with the underwear), why she refuses to coast when she could easily phone it in, what she believes AI will never do to a reader, and the career she never asked for as an advocate against book banning. Then they turn to Hollow Bones, out September 15, a novel that began with an anonymous postcard and a letter from a jail cell and carried Jodi deep into postpartum psychosis, the dismissal of women by medicine, and the long shadow of 9/11. She also brings back a character you have wondered about since My Sister's Keeper.
One heads up before you press play: this conversation includes discussion of postpartum psychosis, suicide, the death of a child, and school shootings. Please take good care of yourself. Support resources are linked below.
Thought-provoking Quotes:
If I'm not challenged by a book, why should you be?
AI will never be human. Novels work because an author is reaching deep into the heart and soul of a reader and finding a chord to pluck that resonates. AI can imitate that. It can never really do it.
It's fine for a parent to decide what his or her child should be reading. I advocate that. It is not fine for that parent to decide what everyone else's child should be reading.
When we remove books from schools, we are not protecting children. We are taking away resources that help them deal with an increasingly complex world. And that is the opposite of protecting kids.
Women are failed at every turn of their lives by the medical industry.
The more you lie, the easier it gets to lie. And we are living in a time right now when lies are being peddled as truths.
Resources Mentioned in This Episode:
Hollow Bones by Jodi Picoult (Ballantine, September 15)
Pre-order signed copies plus an exclusive overlay from Still North Books
Pre-order from Barnes & Noble for the sweepstakes and a letter
Nineteen Minutes, My Sister's Keeper, and Mad Honey (with Jennifer Finney Boylan) by Jodi Picoult
The Book Thief by Markus Zusak, adapted for the stage by Jodi Picoult
PostSecret
PEN America on book bans
Postpartum Support International
National Maternal Mental Health Hotline: call or text 1-833-TLC-MAMA
988 Suicide and Crisis Lifeline: call or text 988
Guest's Links:
Website - https://jodipicoult.com/
Instagram - https://instagram.com/jodipicoult
TikTok - https://tiktok.com/@jodipicoult
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