Wild Herbs with April

Learn to see the plants around you through the eyes of a botanist and herbalist, and discover their names, their medicine, and your connection to the land, in the free Backyard Pharmacy webinar: https://www.wildherbacademy.com/backyard-pharmacy



Who may not be a good fit for psilocybin therapy?

Today's guest is Dr. JJ Pursell, a board-certified naturopathic physician, licensed psilocybin facilitator, and bestselling author of Psilocybin Therapy and The Medicine from the Trees. JJ and I had a heartfelt, wide-ranging conversation about her path from a flower farm childhood and an herb shop apprenticeship to more than 30 years of working with psilocybin, why fear and the need for control come up so often around this medicine, and how she thinks about the spirit of the mushroom. We also talked about the mycelial web of life, the womb and grounding, and more.

"My role is simply to make sure that you feel safe throughout the whole entire experience." – Dr. JJ Pursell



Key Things You'll Learn:

00:00 - Teaser and intro

01:14 - Meet Dr. JJ Pursell

03:13 - JJ's path to psilocybin therapy

12:30 - How cultural messaging shapes views of psychedelics

18:46 - Working with fear before a session

24:05 - Severe trauma and energetic footprint from the body

25:06 - Psilocybin and addiction research

32:22 - The spirit of the mushroom

37:45 - The womb, lower chakras, and grounding

41:05 - Who may not be a good fit

43:44 - Family history of schizophrenia

44:37 - Ketamine as a possible stepping stone

47:12 - Thoughts on microdosing

51:38 - Inside the book Psilocybin Therapy

55:20 - How to work with Dr. Pursell



Disclaimer:

This episode is for educational purposes only and is not medical advice. Please speak with a qualified healthcare provider before making any decisions about your health.



Dr. JJ Pursell's Website: https://drjjpursell.com

Get Dr. JJ Pursell's book, Psilocybin Therapy: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0CDWK2BJ5



Follow Dr. JJ Pursell:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/drjjpursell2024

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/drjjpursell

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jjpursellndlac

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@dr.jjpursell6187



About the host:

Hi, I'm April Punsalan — a botanist, ethnobotanist, herbalist, and the founder of Wild Herb Academy, dedicated to teaching people how to heal with plants. I want you to heal yourself and your family with the wild herbs that grow beneath your feet.



Connect with April:

Website: https://www.wildherbacademy.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildherbacademy

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WildHerbAcademy

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WildherbswithApril



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Why Herbalists Need Medical Botany

You've done the training. You know your calendula, chamomile, echinacea, and goldenrod.

But the aster family alone holds 34,000 species.

In this episode, April shares why medical botany is the missing framework for trained herbalists. It was once the backbone of American healthcare, and today almost no one has heard of it.

In this episode:

How April found medical botany. Fieldwork with botanist Richard Porcher led her to Charleston's Waring Historical Library, where she found shelves of medical botany texts and MD dissertations on single plants and regional floras.

What medical botany actually is. It's the system doctors and eclectic physicians used in the 1700s and 1800s: classification, systematics, then medicine.

What Latin names reveal. Phytolacca americana is decoded, and she explains why "officinalis" tells you a plant earned its place in the official pharmacopeia.

The 4 out of 34,000 problem. Most herbalists work with a handful of asters while the native ones in their own yard go unknown.

Why botany comes first. A federally threatened plant, swamp pink (Helonias bullata), ended up printed as a medicinal herb in a bestselling foraging book.

The native asters in April's Charleston yard. She covers golden aster, sneezeweed, rabbit tobacco, and Bidens, and why Bidens is blooming while her echinacea struggles.

Taste as the teacher. Ayurveda and herbal energetics let you read any wild plant as bitter, salty, astringent, or sweet, through your own constitution.

Why this matters now. In April's words, "the most endangered thing right now is humans' connection to the land."

Plants mentioned:

Pokeweed (Phytolacca americana)

Calendula (Calendula officinalis)

Dandelion (Taraxacum officinale)

Swamp pink (Helonias bullata)

Golden aster (Heterotheca)

Sneezeweed (Helenium)

Rabbit tobacco (Pseudognaphalium)

Spanish needles (Bidens)

Blue curls (Trichostema)

Blanket flower (Gaillardia pulchella)

Eastern horsemint (Monarda punctata)

Lamb's quarters, muscadine, and maypop

Resources mentioned:

Resources of the Southern Fields and Forests by Francis Peyre Porcher

Julia Morton's work on Lowcountry folk medicine

Waring Historical Library and its medicinal plant garden (MUSC, Charleston, SC)

Foraging Wild Herbs: 30 Healing Plants of the Carolina Coast by April Punsalan

Ready to learn the plants beneath your feet?

Enrollment for Medical Botany: Mastery of the Flowering Plant Medicines is Open

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Know the land before the jar. 🌿



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📅 September 16th, 2026, at 12PM ET
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What role can herbal medicine play in helping us reduce our risk of cancer and support the body when a cancer diagnosis occurs?

In this episode, I sit down with medical herbalist and holistic oncology expert Chanchal Cabrera to explore what she has learned from more than 40 years in clinical practice.

We talk about:

Her #1 tip for breast cancer prevention

Why she never puts patients "on a diet"

Her study on women living well with breast cancer

Phytoestrogenic herbs

Her thoughts on period-tracking apps

The real story behind wild yam

Her daily herb ally

Chanchal also shares the research that changed her perspective on herbal medicine and cancer after studying women living well with breast cancer for more than 10 years, and why she believes the best path forward is collaborative care that brings herbal medicine and conventional oncology together.



About the guest:

Chanchal Cabrera is a medical herbalist, in clinical practice since 1987 with a specialty in holistic oncology since 2004. Chanchal is also a certified Shinrin-Yoku (forest bathing) practitioner, a certified Master Gardener and a certified Horticulture Therapist. Chanchal lives on Vancouver Island, British Columbia where she and her husband manage Innisfree Farm and Botanic Garden, a 7-acre internationally registered botanic garden specializing in food and medicine.

She is also the author of the book “Holistic Cancer Care: An Herbal Approach to Preventing Cancer, Helping Patients Thrive during Treatment, and Minimizing the Risk of Recurrence”. She held the faculty chair in Botanical Medicine at the Boucher Institute of Naturopathic Medicine in New Westminster 2004-2016, and she publishes widely in professional journals and lectures internationally on medical herbalism, nutrition and health.



Get Chanchal's books:

Holistic Cancer Care (signed copy): https://chanchalcabrera.com/product/holistic-cancer-care

Fibromyalgia: A Journey Toward Healing (e-book): https://chanchalcabrera.com/product/fibromyalgia-a-journey-toward-healing



Connect with Chanchal:

Website: https://chanchalcabrera.com

Chanchal's Botanical Garden: https://www.innisfreefarm.ca

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/chanchal.cabrera

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/chanchal.cabrera

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@chanchal.cabrera



About the host:
Hi, I'm April Punsalan — a botanist, ethnobotanist, herbalist, and the founder of Wild Herb Academy, dedicated to teaching people how to heal with plants. I want you to heal yourself and your family with the wild herbs that grow beneath your feet.



Connect with April:

Website: https://www.wildherbacademy.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildherbacademy

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WildHerbAcademy

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WildherbswithApril



Rate, review, and subscribe:
Bring the wisdom of wild plants with you. Listen to Wild Herbs with April on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you loved this episode, please leave us a review and, most importantly, share it with someone who's walking this journey with cancer.

🌲 Stay WILD. Stay human. And remember—you are nature.

With love,
April Punsalan

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Disclaimer: The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or health condition, and should not be taken as medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making any changes to your health routine, especially if you are pregnant, nursing, taking medications, or managing a medical condition.

Herbalists, want to learn the native plant medicine of your region? I’m teaching my framework for building regional plant knowledge in an upcoming LIVE class, From 20 Herbs to Infinite Medicine, on September 15, 16, and 18.

👉 Save your spot: https://www.wildherbacademy.com/masterclass

What if kidney disease doesn’t have to mean giving up hope? When kidney function begins to decline, it can feel like there are very few options beyond medication, dialysis, or transplant. But what role can herbs, nutrition, sleep, stress reduction, and other natural approaches play in supporting the kidneys and potentially preserving kidney function?

In this episode of the Wild Herbs Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Jenna Henderson, a naturopathic doctor, kidney patient, transplant recipient, and founder of Holistic Kidney.

After being diagnosed with a rare kidney disease at just 22 years old, Dr. Henderson eventually went through dialysis and a kidney transplant herself. That experience led her to dedicate her career to understanding how natural and conventional medicine can work together to support people living with kidney disease.



About the guest:
Dr. Jenna Henderson is a doctor of naturopathic medicine and the founder of Holistic Kidney, specializing in helping people with kidney disease through safe, effective, and holistic remedies. After experiencing rare kidney disease, dialysis, and a kidney transplant herself, she dedicated her career to supporting others on the same journey. Today, she works with kidney patients around the world, helping people at every stage of kidney disease preserve their kidney function naturally.



Connect with Dr. Jenna:

Website: https://www.holistic-kidney.com

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/p/Holistic-Kidney-100064646473040/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jenna-henderson-898b64b/

Email: info@holistickidney.com



About the host:
Hi, I'm April Punsalan — a botanist, ethnobotanist, herbalist, and the founder of Wild Herb Academy, dedicated to teaching people how to heal with plants. I want you to heal yourself and your family with the wild herbs that grow beneath your feet.



Connect with April:

Website: https://www.wildherbacademy.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildherbacademy

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WildHerbAcademy

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WildherbswithApril



Rate, review, and subscribe:
Bring the wisdom of wild plants with you. Listen to Wild Herbs with April on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you loved this episode, please leave us a review and, most importantly, share it with someone who's walking this journey with kidney disease.

🌲 Stay WILD. Stay human. And remember—you are nature.

With love,
April Punsalan

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Disclaimer: The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or health condition, and should not be taken as medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making any changes to your health routine, especially if you are pregnant, nursing, taking medications, or managing a medical condition.

Herbalists, want to go beyond knowing 20 common herbs and learn how to understand the plants growing around you? Learn how to embody the medicine of the land where you live. I’m teaching my framework for building regional plant knowledge in my LIVE class, From 20 Herbs to Infinite Medicine, on September 15, 16, and 18.

👉 Save your spot: https://www.wildherbacademy.com/masterclass

South African botanist Finn Rautenbach shares how growing up on the edge of the Knysna Forest shaped his intimate connection with plants, then takes us into his work with wild-harvest Pelargonium sidoides (African geranium) and its traceable, sustainable supply network, plus his focus on cultivating Sceletium tortuosum (kanna) to reduce poaching while maintaining quality through careful post-harvest processing.



About the guest:
Finn Rautenbach is a South African botanist, Supply Chain Manager at Afrigetics, and Co-founder at Klein Karoo Medicinals, whose passion for rekindling an intimate link between humans and their natural environment has led him to dedicate his life to the study and conservation of Southern African medicinal plants.



Connect with Finn:

Afrigetics Botanicals website: https://afrigetics.com

Klein Karoo Medicinals website: https://www.kleinkaroomedicinals.co.za

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/finngrows

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/finn.rautenbach

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/finn-rautenbach-127563120

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@finnrautenbach2625



About the host:
Hi, I'm April Punsalan — a botanist, ethnobotanist, herbalist, and the founder of Wild Herb Academy, dedicated to teaching people how to heal with plants. I want you to heal yourself and your family with the wild herbs that grow beneath your feet.



Connect with me:

Website: https://www.wildherbacademy.com

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wildherbacademy

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/WildHerbAcademy

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WildherbswithApril



Rate, review, and subscribe:
Bring the wisdom of wild plants with you. Listen to Wild Herbs with April on Apple Podcasts and Spotify. If you loved this episode, please leave us a review and, most importantly, share it with someone who wants to learn more about the medicinal plants of South Africa.

🌲 Stay WILD. Stay human. And remember—you are nature.

With love,
April Punsalan

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Disclaimer: The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not intended to diagnose, treat, cure, or prevent any disease or health condition, and should not be taken as medical advice. Always consult a qualified healthcare professional before making any changes to your health routine, especially if you are pregnant, nursing, taking medications, or managing a medical condition.