Agents of Chaos: Whiskey Experiments and the Future of IDEs
This week, Chuck and Adam talk about flavored whiskeys, offbeat experiments, and the chaos of tech culture. They discuss AI workflows, Warp vs. IDE debates, and the realities of coding culture, from bleeding-edge hype to WordPress drudgery. Plus, Chuck shares updates on life in Italy.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(03:33) - Whiskey rating and review: Jack Daniel's Tennessee Apple and Honey
(13:57) – Experimenting with mixing whiskeys
(18:16) – Honey on the rim: a sweet idea?
(19:15) – Food, culture, and Chuck’s life in Italy
(28:44) – FOMO on agents and AI hype
(31:32) – Current AI workflows
(32:04) – Warp Code update and its bizarre promo video
(37:27) – IDEs vs. plugins: what’s the future?
(44:29) – Chuck and Adam on their current jobs
Links
Jack Daniel's Tennessee Apple: https://www.jackdaniels.com/whiskey/tennessee-apple
Jack Daniel's Tennessee Honey: https://www.jackdaniels.com/en-us/whiskey/tennessee-honey
MythBusters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MythBusters
Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple
Wild Turkey American Honey: https://www.americanhoney.com/
Hudson House Distillery: https://www.thehudsonhouseny.com/
Burt Bacharach: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burt_Bacharach
Mike's Hot Honey: https://mikeshothoney.com/
Claude Code: https://claude.com/product/claude-code
Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
LM Studio: https://lmstudio.ai
Mac Mini: https://www.apple.com/mac-mini/
Opencode: https://opencode.ai/
Dax: https://x.com/thdxr/
Warp Code: https://www.warp.dev/blog/introducing-warp-code-prompt-to-prod
Zed: https://zed.dev/
WordPress: https://wordpress.org
Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/
Joomla: https://www.joomla.org/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Rust: https://www.rust-lang.org/
BMW: https://www.bmwusa.com/
Tesla: https://www.tesla.com/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Remix: https://remix.run/
React: https://react.dev/
Darknet Diaries: https://darknetdiaries.com/
Jack Rhysider: https://x.com/jackrhysider
All Thing Open: https://2025.allthingsopen.org/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
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DevRel, Linux, and the Shrinking Path for Junior Developers w/ Ali Diamond
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Ali Diamond about her journey through tech, cybersecurity, and community building. They sip tequila, swap hot takes on programming languages and developer culture, and dig into the realities of junior engineering paths, DevRel’s evolution, and how passion—not tools—shapes meaningful work.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:39) - Tequila rating & review: Espolon Tequila Blanco
(13:46) - From tequila to other favorite drinks
(16:11) - Hot Take: Why junior engineers should focus on - fundamentals
(18:57) - Hot Take: MacOS or Linux?
(22:25) - Ali’s take on Linux flavors (and her own twist)
(25:22) - Hot Take: Is DevRel really dead?
(27:28) - Software developer vs. software engineer: does it matter?
(31:45) - Hot Take: Rails vs Laravel
(35:14) - The shrinking path for junior developers
(47:34) - Life outside coding: Ali’s passions and projects
(54:34) - Ali’s journey into tech and family background
(57:40) - Plugs & where to find Ali online
Links
Espolon Tequila Blanco: https://www.espolontequila.com/
Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
Java: https://www.java.com/
Lua: https://www.lua.org/
Spindrift: https://drinkspindrift.com/
Costco: https://www.costco.com
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
The Net Gala: https://x.com/_thenetgala
1942 Tequila: https://www.donjulio.com/our-tequilas/don-julio-1942-tequila
Clase Azul: https://claseazul.com/
Fresca Mixed: https://www.frescamixed.com/
LaCroix: https://www.lacroixwater.com/
Diet Coke: https://www.coca-cola.com/us/en/brands/diet-coke
Monster: https://www.monsterenergy.com/
Celsius: https://www.celsius.com/
Django: https://www.djangoproject.com/
Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
MacOS: https://www.apple.com/macos/
Linux: https://www.linux.org/
Andriod: https://www.android.com/
iPhone: https://www.apple.com/iphone/
Vim: https://www.vim.org/
VS Code: https://code.visualstudio.com/
Omarchy: https://omarchy.org/
DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
Debian: https://www.debian.org/
Ubuntu: https://ubuntu.com/
Kali: https://www.kali.org/
Twitch: https://twitch.tv
CactusCon: https://www.cactuscon.com/
Ep 114: Privacy, Cyber Crime Stories, and Tech with Jack Rhysider: https://whiskey.fm/privacy-cyber-crime-stories-and-tech-with-jack-rhysider
Laravel: https://laravel.com/
PHP: https://www.php.net/
Scala: https://www.scala-lang.org/
Guillermo Rauch: https://x.com/rauchg
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Taylor Otwell: https://x.com/taylorotwell
Walmart: https://www.walmart.com/
WordPress: https://wordpress.org
React: https://react.dev/
LeetCode: https://leetcode.com/
NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
Mark Zuckerberg: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Zuckerberg
Mad Money: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Money
Bill Gates: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Gates
Microsoft: https://www.microsoft.com/
Kubernetes: https://kubernetes.io/
YAML: https://yaml.org/
Smiski: https://smiski.com/
Brandon Sanderson: https://www.brandonsanderson.com/
Game of Thrones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Game_of_Thrones
Lore Olympus: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lore_Olympus
Webtoon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Webtoon
Invincible: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invincible_(TV_series)
The Boys: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boys_(TV_series)
Burning Man: https://burningman.org/
Coachella: https://www.coachella.com/
Nine Inch Nails: https://www.nin.com/
Go: https://go.dev/
MIT: https://www.mit.edu
Pokemon Go: https://pokemongolive.com/
Stanford University: https://www.stanford.edu/
UC Berkeley: https://www.berkeley.edu/
Harvard University: https://www.harvard.edu/
Connect with Ali
Website: https://ali.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/endingwithali
Twitch: https://www.twitch.tv/endingwithali
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@hak5
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Is Cracker Barrel a JS Framework?
This week, Robbie and Adam talk about JavaScript trends, from the overuse of hooks to frameworks chasing sameness, and why Cracker Barrel’s rebrand feels like a frontend metaphor. They dive into tech nostalgia, from retro consoles to old-school LAN parties, and debate AI’s role in therapy and modern workflows.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(01:09) - Whiskey rating & review: WhistlePig Small Batch Rye
(05:48) - Growing plants and bottom watering
(09:43) - Robbie’s dog dental woes
(11:40) - Pet insurance frustrations
(16:59) - Is Cracker Barrel a JavaScript framework?
(19:09) - Do people create negative attention on purpose?
(20:59) - Fashion flashbacks: JNCOs, scene kids, and pajamas
(23:38) - Retro gaming consoles and analog nostalgia
(27:17) - Evergreen updates vs. LAN party days
(30:18) - Hot Take: Can ChatGPT be your therapist?
(34:24) - What Robbie and Adam are watching
(39:05) - Parenting in the digital age
(40:58) - Framework overload, naming struggles, and AI tools
(45:35) - What's exciting about fall this year
(49:10) - Football and the stock market
(54:03) - Gardening and plant hacks
(56:12) - Halloween plans
Links
WhistlePig Small Batch Rye: https://www.whistlepigwhiskey.com/
Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/
Norlan: https://norlanglass.com/
Sagamore Spirit: https://sagamorespirit.com/
Cracker Barrel: https://www.crackerbarrel.com/
JavaScript: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript
Otis Spunkmeyer: https://www.otisspunkmeyer.com/
Donald Trump: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump
JNCO: https://jnco.com/
Target: https://www.target.com/
Stussy: https://www.stussy.com/
Wu Wear: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wu-Tang_Clan#Clothing_line
Hot Topic: https://www.hottopic.com/
Commodore 64: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodore_64
Nintendo: https://www.nintendo.com/
Mini NES: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-Entertainment-NES-Classic-Controller-Included/dp/B07P875QTN
Mini SNES: https://www.amazon.com/SNES-Nintendo-Classic-Mini-Entertainment-System/dp/B073BVHY3F
Mini Sega Genesis: https://asia.sega.com/genesismini/
Analogue: https://www.analogue.co/
Nintendo: https://www.nintendo.com/
Mario Kart World: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/mario-kart-world-switch-2/?srsltid=AfmBOopTg6wc7TCfLihURMUgYx554jK-li2JTJ33ocBEGS9nEEcnO_Ev
8BitDo: https://www.8bitdo.com/
Playstation: https://www.playstation.com/
Switch 2: https://www.nintendo.com/us/gaming-systems/switch-2/
Super Mario Odyssey: https://www.nintendo.com/us/store/products/super-mario-odyssey-switch/
Halo: https://www.xbox.com/en-US/games/halo/
South Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Today: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Today_(American_TV_program)
The Last of Us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Last_of_Us_(TV_series)
Bluey: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bluey_(TV_series)
AFV: https://www.afv.com/
Mickey Mouse Clubhouse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mickey_Mouse_Clubhouse
Rolie Polie Olie: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolie_Polie_Olie
Toy Story: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toy_Story
Star Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars
Jurassic Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jurassic_Park
The Force Awakens: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_The_Force_Awakens
The Mandalorian: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mandalorian
The Book of Boba Fett: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Book_of_Boba_Fett
Andor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andor_(TV_series)
Lego Star Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lego_Star_Wars
Skeleton Crew: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars:_Skeleton_Crew
Jude Law: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jude_Law
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
Qoder: https://qoder.com/
Kiro: https://kiro.dev/
Amazon: https://amazon.com
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Saquon Barkley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saquon_Barkley
Chipotle: https://www.chipotle.com/
Sum 41: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sum_41
Clues by Sam: https://cluesbysam.com/
Connect with the hosts
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Adam Argyle: https://x.com/argyleink
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
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Overcast: https://overcast.fm/itunes1552776603
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Dial-Up Is Dead, Long Live Adam Argyle
This week, Robbie and Adam talk about CascadiaJS, Adam’s new role at Shopify, and why tech interviews are so broken. They explore accessibility in front-end dev, the sameness of modern frameworks, and whether AI is the future of engineering or just another hype cycle.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:46) - Whiskey rating & review: Jim Beam Pineapple
(07:00) - CascadiaJS preview + speaker lineup
(13:27) - Adam's new role at Shopify
(20:47) - Are React hooks officially dead?
(21:41) - The dev interview process is broken + interview tips
(31:01) - Gradient.style
(35:09) - Hot Take: no more React clones
(36:53) - Adam's OpenAI interview and NPM nightmares
(40:03) - AI and the future of web development
(52:06) - Dial-up is dead
(53:39) - Physical vs. digital media
(1:00:39) - Cracker Barrel’s makeover
Links
Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple
Taylor Swift: https://www.taylorswift.com/
Travis Kelce: https://x.com/tkelce
New Heights: https://www.youtube.com/@newheightshow
Jim Beam Pineapple: https://www.jimbeam.com/en-us/bourbons/jim-beam-pineapple
CascadiaJS: https://cascadiajs.com/
Vue.js: https://vuejs.org/
Carter Rabasa: https://carter.rabasa.com/
IBM: https://www.ibm.com/
Slack: https://www.slack.com/
Kent C. Dodds: https://kentcdodds.com/
CSS: https://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/
Kevin Whinnery: https://www.kevin.mn/
Deno: https://deno.com/
OpenAI: https://openai.com/
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Charlie Gerard: https://charliegerard.dev/
Annie Sexton: https://bsky.app/profile/anniesexton.com
Shruti Kapoor: https://shrutikapoor.dev/
React: https://react.dev/
Big Sky Dev Con: https://bigskydevcon.com/
All Things Open: https://allthingsopen.org/
Shopify: https://www.shopify.com/
Vercel: https://vercel.com/
Ep 194: Static, Dynamic, Generative: What’s Next for the Web? w/ Guillermo Rauch: https://whiskey.fm/static-dynamic-generative-whats-next-for-the-web-w-guillermo-rauch
LeetCode: https://leetcode.com/
Michael Jackson: https://x.com/mjackson
Remix: https://remix.run/
React: https://react.dev/
Knockout: https://knockoutjs.com/
Discord: https://discord.com
HTML: https://www.w3schools.com/html/
Adam's resume: https://nerdy.dev/resume
Gradient.style: https://gradient.style/
Colorzilla: https://www.colorzilla.com/
Svelte: https://svelte.dev/
Wes Bos: https://wesbos.com/
Kiro: https://kiro.dev/
Windsurf: https://windsurf.ai/
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai
Warp: https://www.warp.dev/
Zed: https://zed.dev/
Fireship: https://www.youtube.com/@fireship
Shepherd: https://www.shepherdjs.dev/
Tailwind CSS: https://tailwindcss.com/
Adam's LLM chat prototype: https://nerdy.dev/llm-chat-prototype
NPM: https://www.npmjs.com/
Alanis Morissette: https://alanis.com
Lex Fridman: https://lexfridman.com/
ASAP Rocky: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAP_Rocky
Ken Wheeler: https://x.com/ken_wheeler/
Lincoln Park: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linkin_Park
Austin Powers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Austin_Powers
Sonos: https://www.sonos.com/
Google Home: https://home.google.com/welcome/
Beyond Tellerrand: https://beyondtellerrand.com/
Teenage Engineering K.O. II: https://teenage.engineering/store/ep-133
Elvis Presley: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elvis_Presley
Final Fantasy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy
Cracker Barrel: https://www.crackerbarrel.com/
Logan's Roadhouse: https://logansroadhouse.com/
Connect with Adam
Website: https://nerdy.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/argyleink
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Subscribe and stay in touch
Website: https://whiskey.fm
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YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@WhiskeyWebAndWhatnot
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Will Frameworks Survive? Web Development in an AI-Driven World w/ Typecraft and Robert Jackson
This week, Robbie and Chuck talk with Typecraft and Robert Jackson about everything from Japanese rice whiskey to the future of software engineering. They dig into Robert’s open source journey, his insights on MCP and AI, and whether frameworks will remain relevant in an LLM-driven world. They also explore how AI changes the way new developers learn, the importance of systems thinking, and why open source sharpens both technical and soft skills.
In this episode:
(00:00) - Intro
(02:19) - Whiskey rating & review: Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask
(14:09) - Hot take: GPT-5 vs Claude Sonnet 4
(22:34) - Framework computers and modular desktops
(29:37) - How open source shapes careers
(36:25) - Will frameworks survive the rise of AI code?
(46:53) - Kids and tech
(47:51) - The great Buffalo Wild Wings detour
(49:16) - How Robert turned fitness into a priority
Links
Ohishi Whisky Ex Brandy Cask: https://ohishiwhisky.com/
Ember: https://emberjs.com/
MCP: https://modelcontextprotocol.io/
30 Rock: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/30_Rock
Alec Baldwin: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alec_Baldwin
ChatGPT: https://chatgpt.com/
Claude: https://claude.ai/
Opus: https://www.anthropic.com/claude/opus
Cursor: https://www.cursor.com/
GitHub: https://github.com/
Neovim: https://neovim.io/
Arch Linux: https://archlinux.org/
Apple: https://apple.com
Ollama: https://ollama.com/
DHH: https://x.com/dhh/
Ruby on Rails: https://rubyonrails.org/
Minecraft: https://www.minecraft.net/
Buffalo Wild Wings: https://www.buffalowildwings.com/
Hot Ones: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot_Ones
McDonald's: https://www.mcdonalds.com/
MyFitnessPal: https://www.myfitnesspal.com/
MacroFactor: https://macrofactorapp.com/
Connect with Typecraft
Website: https://typecraft.dev/
X / Twitter: https://x.com/typecraft_dev
Connect with Robert
Website: https://www.rwjblue.com/
Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rwjblue.com
Connect with Chuck and Robbie
Robbie Wagner: https://x.com/RobbieTheWagner
Chuck Carpenter: https://x.com/CharlesWthe3rd
Subscribe and stay in touch
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Acerca de Whiskey Web and Whatnot: Web Development, Neat
Veteran web developers RobbieTheWagner, Charles William Carpenter III, and Adam Argyle host this informal, whiskey-fueled fireside chat with your favorite web devs. They discuss all things web development including JavaScript, TypeScript, EmberJS, React, Astro, SolidJS, CSS, HTML, Web3, and more. They take a unique approach and focus on getting to know the human side of developers and their hobbies outside of work, all while sampling a new whiskey that they rate on their unique tentacle scale.
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