Love in Action

Marcel Schwantes
Love in Action
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  • Love in Action

    How to Master Your Emotions to Become a Better Leader

    13/03/2026 | 57 min
    Episode recap

    In this powerful conversation, Marcel sits down with Joshua Freedman, a global leader in emotional intelligence and the CEO of Six Seconds, to explore the ideas behind his new book, Emotion Rules. Drawing from 30 years of research and more than a million emotional intelligence assessments, Joshua shares why he believes we are living through an “emotional recession” and what leaders must do about it. 

     

    Joshua discusses how many leaders struggle with old patterns that no longer serve them, especially when moving from being a high-performing doer to a leader who must grow others. Marcel highlights two major shifts leaders must make: from knowing to learning, and from doing to being. The episode closes with a fast-paced speed round and reflections on what it truly means to lead with practical, actionable love in business.

     

    Bio:

    Joshua Freedman is CEO and cofounder of Six Seconds, the world’s largest  emotional intelligence network. A pioneer in applying EQ to business and social impact, he directs The State of the Heart  study, a landmark longitudinal analysis tracking global trends in emotional intelligence, which first identified the  “Emotional Recession” – a sustained worldwide decline in emotional and relational capacities affecting wellbeing, engagement, and organizational resilience. His frameworks and tools are used by over a million people in 150+ countries, delivering measurable improvements in performance and culture.

     

    Quotes 

     “There are no negative feelings. They’re all data.” 

     “Emotions are great advisors but horrible bosses.” 

     “Your feelings are here for a reason—your next step is to learn to trust them more.” 

     “Maybe the struggle isn’t the obstacle; maybe the struggle is the curriculum.” 

     “We must shift from knowing to learning, and from doing to being.” 

     

     

    Takeaways 

    Emotional wisdom goes beyond emotional intelligence—it’s the ability to use emotional signals to navigate ambiguity when there is no clear path or precedent. 

    We are in a global “emotional recession” where optimism, intrinsic motivation, and purpose are declining, yet higher EQ in these areas is strongly linked to better life and work outcomes. 

    All emotions are information, not problems; even uncomfortable feelings like fear or anxiety are messages about important needs and values that require attention. 

    Leaders often get stuck in old emotional patterns—like over‑controlling or withdrawing—that once helped them succeed but now block trust, growth, and empowerment in their teams. 

    Simple practices—such as choosing who you want to be each day and adopting a coach‑like, question‑driven approach—can transform leadership from transactional control to human‑centered connection and learning. 

     

    Timestamps 

    00:00:02 – Introduction & Joshua’s Background 

    00:04:11 – The Emotional Recession 

    00:07:42 – Emotional Intelligence vs. Emotional Wisdom 

    00:15:11 – Decline in Key EQ Capabilities 

    00:18:14 – Fighting Our Emotions 

    00:23:40 – Emotions as Data & Needs 

    00:31:04 – Emotions as Advisors, Not Bosses 

    00:34:24 – Patterns That Keep Leaders Stuck 

    00:43:03 – The To‑Be List Practice 

    00:46:22 – Wisdom Lives Within 

    00:52:39 – Leading with Love 

    00:54:39 – Final Takeaway 

     

     

    Conclusion 

    This episode ultimately makes the case that emotional wisdom is not about perfection or sentimentality, but about honestly listening to what our feelings are telling us so we can build more humane, resilient, and high‑performing lives and workplaces; when leaders stop fighting emotions, treat them as data, and model curiosity and courage, they unlock deeper engagement, stronger cultures, and a more sustainable way to navigate a chaotic world. 

     

     

    Links/Resources 

    Emotion Rules book: https://www.6seconds.org/emotionrules/

    Six Seconds - https://www.6seconds.org/

    Emotional Wisdom Wheel (Constellation Map): https://www.6seconds.org/emotionrules/wheel/

    Episode #191 with Joshua Freedman: https://www.marcelschwantes.com/josh-freedman-emotional-intelligence-and-how-to-use-it-to-get-results-ep-191/

     

    Social Media Links: 

    https://www.linkedin.com/company/six-seconds/

    https://www.instagram.com/6secondseq/ 

    https://www.facebook.com/sixseconds/

     

    Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/       

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   

    Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes   

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9fO2r_ZQ3wy5ie522f-DTQ   

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/
  • Love in Action

    How to Master Your Emotions to Become a Better Leader

    13/03/2026 | 57 min
    Episode recap

     

    In this powerful conversation, Marcel sits down with Joshua Freedman, a global leader in emotional intelligence and the CEO of Six Seconds, to explore the ideas behind his new book, Emotion Rules. Drawing from 30 years of research and more than a million emotional intelligence assessments, Joshua shares why he believes we are living through an “emotional recession” and what leaders must do about it. 

    Joshua discusses how many leaders struggle with old patterns that no longer serve them, especially when moving from being a high-performing doer to a leader who must grow others. Marcel highlights two major shifts leaders must make: from knowing to learning, and from doing to being. The episode closes with a fast-paced speed round and reflections on what it truly means to lead with practical, actionable love in business.

     

    Bio:

     

    Joshua Freedman is CEO and cofounder of Six Seconds, the world’s largest emotional intelligence network. A pioneer in applying EQ to business and social impact, he directs The State of the Heart study, a landmark longitudinal analysis tracking global trends in emotional intelligence, which first identified the “Emotional Recession” – a sustained worldwide decline in emotional and relational capacities affecting wellbeing, engagement, and organizational resilience. His frameworks and tools are used by over a million people in 150+ countries, delivering measurable improvements in performance and culture.

     

    Quotes 

     

     “There are no negative feelings. They’re all data.” 

     “Emotions are great advisors but horrible bosses.” 

     “Your feelings are here for a reason—your next step is to learn to trust them more.” 

     “Maybe the struggle isn’t the obstacle; maybe the struggle is the curriculum.” 

     “We must shift from knowing to learning, and from doing to being.” 

     

    Marcel Schwantes: 

     

    “For years I tried to understand my emotions, but what really changed me was not just naming the feeling—it was asking why I’m feeling what I’m feeling.” 

     

    “We must shift from knowing to learning, and from doing to being.” 

     

    Takeaways 

     

    Emotional wisdom goes beyond emotional intelligence—it’s the ability to use emotional signals to navigate ambiguity when there is no clear path or precedent. 

    We are in a global “emotional recession” where optimism, intrinsic motivation, and purpose are declining, yet higher EQ in these areas is strongly linked to better life and work outcomes. 

    All emotions are information, not problems; even uncomfortable feelings like fear or anxiety are messages about important needs and values that require attention. 

    Leaders often get stuck in old emotional patterns—like over‑controlling or withdrawing—that once helped them succeed but now block trust, growth, and empowerment in their teams. 

    Simple practices—such as choosing who you want to be each day and adopting a coach‑like, question‑driven approach—can transform leadership from transactional control to human‑centered connection and learning. 

     

     

    Timestamps 

     

    00:00:02 – Introduction & Joshua’s Background 

    00:04:11 – The Emotional Recession 

    00:07:42 – Emotional Intelligence vs. Emotional Wisdom 

    00:15:11 – Decline in Key EQ Capabilities 

    00:18:14 – Fighting Our Emotions 

    00:23:40 – Emotions as Data & Needs 

    00:31:04 – Emotions as Advisors, Not Bosses 

    00:34:24 – Patterns That Keep Leaders Stuck 

    00:43:03 – The To‑Be List Practice 

    00:46:22 – Wisdom Lives Within 

    00:52:39 – Leading with Love 

    00:54:39 – Final Takeaway 

     

     

     

    Conclusion 

     

    This episode ultimately makes the case that emotional wisdom is not about perfection or sentimentality, but about honestly listening to what our feelings are telling us so we can build more humane, resilient, and high‑performing lives and workplaces; when leaders stop fighting emotions, treat them as data, and model curiosity and courage, they unlock deeper engagement, stronger cultures, and a more sustainable way to navigate a chaotic world. 

     

     

     

    Links/Resources 

     

    Six Seconds (Global EQ Network): 

     https://www.6seconds.org/ 

    Emotion Rules (Book site & tools): 

     https://emotionrules.com/ (if different, use the book’s official URL) 

    State of the Heart Research (Six Seconds):  

    https://www.6seconds.org/research/ 

    Joshua Friedman on LinkedIn: 

     https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuafreedman/ 

    Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/       

    LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   

    Twitter/X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes   

    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC9fO2r_ZQ3wy5ie522f-DTQ   

    Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/
  • Love in Action

    Why Fear-Based Workplaces Need to Disappear with Marcel Schwantes

    06/03/2026 | 13 min
    Episode recap

     

    Don’t forget Marcel’s special offer to join his Substack community for $8.00/month. Subscribe here: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/subscribe 

     

    In this solo episode, Marcel Schwantes discussed the impact of fear in the workplace, explaining how it stifles creativity, innovation, and collaboration. He highlighted that fear-based environments lead to disengagement, turnover, and low morale, while human-centered leadership fosters psychological safety and trust. Marcel emphasized the importance of leaders addressing their blind spots and modifying behaviors to create a positive workplace culture. He stressed that hiring and developing leaders based on technical competence alone is insufficient, urging a focus on humanity and human-centered attributes. Marcel encouraged listeners to subscribe to his Substack for further insights on effective human-centered leadership.

     

    Bio:

     

    Marcel Schwantes is a leadership coach, speaker, author, and advocate for more humane workplaces. He partners with organizations tired of burnout, disengagement, and hollow cultures — and ready to build something better. 

     

    Marcel’s work includes: 

    Executive coaching 

    Leadership development programs for managers 

    Keynote speaking and workshops 

    Executive roundtables and culture strategy sessions 

     

    Marcel is the author of Humane Leadership: Lead with Radical Love, Be a Kick-Ass Boss. Whether coaching a CEO or training a leadership team, Marcel’s #1 goal is the same: To help leaders become the kind of people others want to follow. 

     

    Episode Timeline:

    [00:03] Introduction: Why fear remains a workplace epidemic
    [00:19] How fear kills creativity, collaboration, and profitability 
    [01:06] Silence in meetings: The hidden cost of fear 
    [01:58] Why fear stops innovation and risk-taking 
    [02:34] Fear shrinks organizations from the inside out 
    [03:51] Psychological safety and team performance (Harvard research) 
    [04:26] Why leaders still dismiss “soft skills” 
    [05:13] The cost of waiting for marching orders 
    [05:49] Burnout, turnover, and quiet disengagement 
    [06:03] What human-centered leadership looks like 
    [07:10] Surfacing problems early vs. kicking the can down the road 
    [08:10] Shared accountability and self-correcting teams 
    [09:40] Leadership blind spots and fear-driven management 
    [10:29] Burnout as the final warning sign 
    [11:30] Why technical skills alone no longer qualify someone to lead 
    [12:04] Raising human leadership capacity in the AI era 
    [12:31] Closing thoughts and call to action 

     

    Quotes:

    “If you want to know why creativity dies, why collaboration stalls, why your most talented people are quietly quitting — look for one thing: fear.” 

    “When fear is prevalent, people protect themselves instead of serving the mission.” 

    “You cannot afford to choose leaders based only on technical competence or individual performance. Those days are over.” 

     

    Key Takeaways:

    Fear Is Expensive - Fear doesn’t just hurt feelings — it damages profitability, innovation, and long-term growth.

    Silence Is a Warning Sign - if meetings are full of nodding heads but no pushback, fear may be driving compliance instead of commitment.

    Psychological Safety Drives Performance - When employees feel safe to speak up, admit mistakes, and challenge ideas, performance and productivity increase.

    Human-Centered Leadership Solves Problems Early - Empowered teams raise concerns quickly, solve issues on the spot, and share accountability across levels.

    Leadership Blind Spots Create Fear - Many fear-based environments stem from leaders who fear losing control or respect. Coaching and self-awareness are critical.

    Technical Skills Aren’t Enough Anymore - In the age of AI and automation, the differentiator is human leadership capacity — the ability to help people flourish. 

     

    Conclusion:

    Fear quietly shrinks organizations from the inside out. It limits creativity, slows innovation, and pushes good people toward burnout and disengagement.  Marcel’s message is clear: if you care about performance, profitability, and long-term growth, you must care about human-centered leadership. The future of leadership isn’t louder authority or tighter control — it’s building environments where people feel safe enough to contribute their best thinking. 

    The question every leader must ask: 

    Am I creating safety — or am I creating fear? 

    Because that answer determines everything. 

     

    Resources: 

    The book: https://www.amazon.com/Humane-Leadership-Lead-Radical-Kick-Ass-ebook/dp/B0CWG3PTL4/ 

    Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   

    X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes 

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@MarcelSchwantes1 

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/ 

    Dr. James Doty Episode: https://www.marcelschwantes.com/dr-james-doty-the-neuroscience-of-manifestation/
  • Love in Action

    Why Fear-Based Workplaces Need to Disappear with Marcel Schwantes

    05/03/2026 | 13 min
    Episode recap

     

    Don’t forget Marcel’s special offer to join his Substack community for $8.00/month. Subscribe here: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/subscribe 

     

    In this solo episode, Marcel Schwantes discussed the impact of fear in the workplace, explaining how it stifles creativity, innovation, and collaboration. He highlighted that fear-based environments lead to disengagement, turnover, and low morale, while human-centered leadership fosters psychological safety and trust. Marcel emphasized the importance of leaders addressing their blind spots and modifying behaviors to create a positive workplace culture. He stressed that hiring and developing leaders based on technical competence alone is insufficient, urging a focus on humanity and human-centered attributes. Marcel encouraged listeners to subscribe to his Substack for further insights on effective human-centered leadership.

     

    Bio:

     

    Marcel Schwantes is a leadership coach, speaker, author, and advocate for more humane workplaces. He partners with organizations tired of burnout, disengagement, and hollow cultures — and ready to build something better. 

     

    Marcel’s work includes: 

    Executive coaching 

    Leadership development programs for managers 

    Keynote speaking and workshops 

    Executive roundtables and culture strategy sessions 

     

    Marcel is the author of Humane Leadership: Lead with Radical Love, Be a Kick-Ass Boss. Whether coaching a CEO or training a leadership team, Marcel’s #1 goal is the same: To help leaders become the kind of people others want to follow. 

     

    TIMESTAMPS 

    [00:03] Introduction: Why fear remains a workplace epidemic

    [00:19] How fear kills creativity, collaboration, and profitability 
    [01:06] Silence in meetings: The hidden cost of fear 
    [01:58] Why fear stops innovation and risk-taking 
    [02:34] Fear shrinks organizations from the inside out 
    [03:51] Psychological safety and team performance (Harvard research) 
    [04:26] Why leaders still dismiss “soft skills” 
    [05:13] The cost of waiting for marching orders 
    [05:49] Burnout, turnover, and quiet disengagement 
    [06:03] What human-centered leadership looks like 
    [07:10] Surfacing problems early vs. kicking the can down the road 
    [08:10] Shared accountability and self-correcting teams 
    [09:40] Leadership blind spots and fear-driven management 
    [10:29] Burnout as the final warning sign 
    [11:30] Why technical skills alone no longer qualify someone to lead 
    [12:04] Raising human leadership capacity in the AI era 
    [12:31] Closing thoughts and call to action 

     

    3 BEST QUOTES 

    “If you want to know why creativity dies, why collaboration stalls, why your most talented people are quietly quitting — look for one thing: fear.” 

    “When fear is prevalent, people protect themselves instead of serving the mission.” 

    “You cannot afford to choose leaders based only on technical competence or individual performance. Those days are over.” 

     

    KEY TAKEAWAYS 

    Fear Is Expensive Fear doesn’t just hurt feelings — it damages profitability, innovation, and long-term growth. 

    Silence Is a Warning Sign if meetings are full of nodding heads but no pushback, fear may be driving compliance instead of commitment. 

    Psychological Safety Drives Performance When employees feel safe to speak up, admit mistakes, and challenge ideas, performance and productivity increase. 

    Human-Centered Leadership Solves Problems Early. Empowered teams raise concerns quickly, solve issues on the spot, and share accountability across levels. 

    Leadership Blind Spots Create Fear Many fear-based environments stem from leaders who fear losing control or respect. Coaching and self-awareness are critical. 

    Technical Skills Aren’t Enough Anymore In the age of AI and automation, the differentiator is human leadership capacity — the ability to help people flourish. 

     

    CONCLUSION 

    Fear quietly shrinks organizations from the inside out. It limits creativity, slows innovation, and pushes good people toward burnout and disengagement.  Marcel’s message is clear: if you care about performance, profitability, and long-term growth, you must care about human-centered leadership. The future of leadership isn’t louder authority or tighter control — it’s building environments where people feel safe enough to contribute their best thinking. 

    The question every leader must ask: 

    Am I creating safety — or am I creating fear? 

    Because that answer determines everything. 

     

    Resources: 

    The book: https://www.amazon.com/Humane-Leadership-Lead-Radical-Kick-Ass-ebook/dp/B0CWG3PTL4/ 

    Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/ 

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/   

    X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes 

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@MarcelSchwantes1 

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/ 

    Dr. James Doty Episode: https://www.marcelschwantes.com/dr-james-doty-the-neuroscience-of-manifestation/
  • Love in Action

    Modeling Compassionate Leadership with Marcel Schwantes

    26/02/2026 | 10 min
    Episode recap  

     

    Don’t forget Marcel’s special offer to join his Substack community for $8.00/month. Subscribe here: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/subscribe 

     

    In this solo episode, Marcel argued that compassion is a core leadership strength, not a soft extra, and that alleviating others’ pain and suffering is a leader’s real work. Through examples like Jeff Weiner and Phil Lynch during 9/11, he showed how leaders who prioritize people, communicate openly, and make space for emotion build stronger, more connected organizations. When leaders show up in hard moments, teams heal faster and perform better.

     

    Bio

    Marcel Schwantes is a leadership coach, speaker, author, and advocate for more humane workplaces. He works with organizations that are tired of burnout, disengagement, and hollow cultures — and ready to build something better. 

    Marcel’s work includes: 

    Executive coaching 

    Leadership development programs for managers 

    Keynote speaking and workshops 

    Executive roundtables and culture strategy sessions 

     

    Marcel is the author of Humane Leadership: Lead with Radical Love, Be a Kick-Ass Boss. Whether coaching a CEO or training a leadership team, Marcel’s #1 goal is the same: To help leaders become the kind of people others want to follow. 

     

    Timestamps 

    [00:03] Why “soft skills” like compassion are actually essential leadership skills 

    [01:05] Command-and-control vs. compassion: why old leadership models fail 

    [02:00] Jeff Weiner on compassion as a lifelong practice, not a buzzword 

    [02:52] Dr. James Doty’s definition of compassion and the science behind it 

    [03:45] What compassionate leadership looks like in practice 

    [04:32] 9/11 and Reuters: setting the scene for Phil Lynch’s defining moment 

    [05:25] “People first, then customers, then the business” — a new priority in crisis 

    [06:20] Keeping people informed, safe, and emotionally supported 

    [07:15] Making space for grief, fear, and honest emotions at work 

    [08:10] How compassion shaped Reuters’ culture and rippled to customers 

    [08:30] Final reflection: Are you willing to be present with people when they’re suffering 

     

    Key Quotes 

    “If you want to measure yourself against the highest standard of leadership, you have to measure yourself against what people call the ‘soft stuff’—because it’s actually the hardest to master.”

    “Compassion is not weakness. Some of the strongest people I know are the most compassionate.”

    “Compassion is recognizing someone’s suffering—and then doing what you can to help ease it. It’s not hippy-dippy; it’s evidence-based and deeply human.”

    “In the middle of absolute mayhem, Phil Lynch gathered his team and said: ‘People first, then customers, then the business.’ That’s compassionate leadership in action.”

    “Leaders who create space for sorrow, confusion, and grief help their organizations heal and reconnect much faster.” 

     

     

    Key Takeaways: 

     

    Compassion is an essential leadership skill, not a soft extra. 

    Compassion is often dismissed as “soft,” but it is one of the hardest and most strategic skills to master. It directly impacts engagement, trust, and long-term performance. 

    Compassion is both recognition and action. 

    It’s not enough to notice someone’s pain. Compassion means seeing the suffering and intentionally acting to alleviate it—in conversations, decisions, and policies. 

    Science backs the power of compassion. 

    Research highlighted by Dr. James Doty shows compassion is a powerful antidote to loneliness, depression, anxiety, and addiction, all of which show up at work. 

    People-first leadership is clearest in crisis. 

    During 9/11, Phil Lynch’s mantra—“People first, then customers, then the business”—became a north star for Reuters. Compassion isn’t theoretical; it’s how leaders rank their priorities when it matters most. 

    Emotional transparency but safety and trust. 

    By being open about what he and his team were feeling, Lynch gave others permission to feel and express their own grief and fear, creating psychological and emotional safety. 

    Compassion shapes emotional culture. 

    When leaders intentionally make room for grief, questions, and honesty, they shape a culture where people feel seen, heard, and valued—and are proud to belong. 

    Love in action is a leadership practice. 

    Compassionate leadership is ultimately love expressed through behavior: how you decide, how you listen, how you show up for people when they’re struggling. 

     

    Conclusion 

    Marcel’s message in this episode is straightforward and challenging: the future of leadership is compassion in action. In a world where mental health struggles and emotional pain are everywhere, leaders can no longer hide behind metrics and control. 

     

    The story of Phil Lynch shows that when leaders put people first, especially in the darkest moments, they create cultures of trust, pride, and deep human connection. Compassion is not about being nice for its own sake; it is about being courageously present with suffering and choosing actions that reduce it. 

     

    If you want your organization to come alive from the inside out, start with one question: How am I shaping the emotional culture around me—and am I willing to be present when people hurt? That’s where real leadership—and love in action—begins. 

     

    Resources: 

    Guest Mentioned: 

     

    Dr. James Doty – Neurosurgeon and compassion researcher; previously featured on the show (link to that episode will be added to the show notes) 

     

    People Referenced: 

     

    Jeff Weiner – Former CEO of LinkedIn, advocate for compassion as a core leadership skill 

    Phil Lynch – Former president of Reuters America, whose leadership during 9/11 exemplified compassion in crisis 

     

    The book: https://www.amazon.com/Humane-Leadership-Lead-Radical-Kick-Ass-ebook/dp/B0CWG3PTL4/  

    Substack: https://marcelschwantes.substack.com/  

    LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/marcelschwantes/    

    X: https://x.com/MarcelSchwantes  

    YouTube: https://youtube.com/@MarcelSchwantes1  

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/marcel.schwantes/  

    Dr. James Doty Episode: https://www.marcelschwantes.com/dr-james-doty-the-neuroscience-of-manifestation/

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The Love in Action Podcast—ranked #33 among the 100 Best Leadership Podcasts and in the top 2% of shows worldwide—is where leadership meets humanity. Hosted by global influencer, author, and executive coach Marcel Schwantes, the show features candid conversations with bestselling authors, visionary executives, and thought leaders who are redefining what it means to lead. Whether you want to sharpen your leadership skills, create a culture people love to work in, or grow your business by putting people first, you’ll find practical wisdom and inspiring stories to help you get there.
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