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Marcel Schwantes
Love in Action
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  • How to See What’s Holding You Back as a Leader with Martin Dubin
    Episode recap     In this episode, I sat down with Dr. Martin Dubin — a clinical psychologist turned entrepreneur and executive coach — to unpack the blind spots that quietly sabotage leaders. Marty’s journey from therapy rooms to boardrooms shaped his book Blindspotting, where he helps executives see what they can’t see about themselves. We dug into why even the smartest leaders miss their own patterns, how to build self-awareness without beating yourself up, and why humility and small shifts matter more than big transformations.    Key Insights:  Blind spots aren’t flaws — they’re unseen patterns. Marty explained how our minds naturally focus on familiar territory, leaving some behaviors invisible to us. Six areas to watch: identity, motives, traits, emotions, intellect, and behavior — all interconnected layers that shape how leaders show up.  Awareness beats overhaul. Growth happens through small, intentional adjustments, not massive self-reinventions.  Humility is the gateway to insight. The best leaders don’t try to be perfect — they stay curious about what they might be missing.  Self-awareness drives effectiveness. Understanding your motives and emotional triggers helps you lead with more clarity, empathy, and confidence.  BIO:   Martin Dubin is a clinical psychologist, serial entrepreneur, business coach, and adviser to C-suite executives and Silicon Valley entrepreneurs. He founded several companies, including a multimillion-dollar health care company where he also served as CEO. A former coach at the Center for Creative Leadership and a partner at talent firm RHR International, he worked directly with hundreds of C-suite senior executives from Fortune 500 companies and with Silicon Valley venture capital firms and their portfolio companies.    Quotes:   “Self-awareness is the single most important tool of your leadership.” “You are the tool of your leadership, so the better you know yourself, the better you lead.” “Your greatest strength becomes a blind spot the moment you overdo it.” “Stress narrows your motives, so you default to survival instead of wise leadership.” “Real change in leaders comes from small tweaks, not dramatic transformation.”    Takeaways:  Name your core strengths, then ask what happens when you are too much of that strength to uncover likely blind spots. Notice when your role has changed but your identity has not and ask if you are still leading like your old job. Pay attention to emotional overreactions after meetings; they are clues to motives or values you may not fully understand. Stop trying to be the smartest person in the room and start asking more questions to draw out the intelligence of your team. Focus on small, intentional behavioral changes rather than chasing a complete personal transformation.    Timestamps:    [00:00] Marcel’s intro: why what used to work in leadership suddenly stops working [02:40] Marty’s story from clinical psychologist to entrepreneur to executive coach  [07:20] The spark behind Blind Spotting and why entrepreneurs reveal raw blind spots  [09:06] Why is it so hard for leaders to see their own blind spots  [11:31] The six blind spot areas and the “target” model are explained  [13:15] Identity blind spots and the pain of transitioning into new roles  [16:12] Traits, emotions, and intellect as hard-to-change parts of our wiring  [20:37] Emotional blind spots, EQ, and using feelings strategically at work  [22:41] Different kinds of intellect and how over-reliance on smarts backfires  [27:49] Motives at the center: power, achievement, affiliation, and values  [32:30] How stress distorts motives and narrows our leadership choices  [33:16] A simple exercise to find blind spots by adding “too” to your strengths  [34:17] Why sustainable growth comes from small behavioral tweaks, not wholesale reinvention  [35:13] Speed round: what makes Marty smile, big life lessons, and hopes for the future  [37:45] Leading with love by accepting yourself and using what you have  [38:16] Final takeaway: start somewhere small and let self-awareness do its work    Conclusion:    This conversation reminds us that leadership is fundamentally an inside job. Blind spots are not signs of failure but evidence that we are human, shaped by patterns, histories, and motives we do not always see. By understanding identity shifts, naming our traits and emotional patterns, and getting honest about what truly drives us, we gain more choice in how we show up. Rather than chasing dramatic transformation, Marty urges leaders to embrace small, focused behavioral changes—asking more questions, listening longer, or dialing down an overused strength. Over time, those small tweaks compound into deeper authenticity, healthier relationships, and more effective, human-centered leadership.    Links/Resources:  Website: https://www.martindubin.com/    Blind Spotting assessment and resources: https://www.blindspotting.com/   Book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DRZFK8J6?tag=bk00010a-20&th=1&psc=1&geniuslink=true  
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  • Discover How to Unlock a Brighter, Happier, Bolder You with Dr. Paul Zak
    Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. Powered by 100% renewable energy and recently named a Denver Broncos Small Business Partner, TerraSlate combines durability with sustainability. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.  Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.    Episode Recap:  In this Love in Action episode, Marcel sits down with neuroscientist and author Dr. Paul Zak to unpack what truly makes us happy—and how love, connection, and neuroscience intersect to create thriving workplaces and healthier lives. Drawing on research from The Little Book of Happiness and his company, Immersion Neuroscience, Zak reveals how happiness isn’t just a feeling—it’s a measurable state shaped by our relationships, daily choices, and leadership behaviors.   Bio:   Paul Zak is a distinguished university professor at Claremont Graduate University. His research has taken him from the Pentagon to Fortune 50 boardrooms to the rainforest of Papua New Guinea. He is ranked among the top 0.3 percent of most cited scientists, with over 200 published research articles. His lab and company, Immersion Neuroscience, help people live longer, happier, and healthier lives.    Quotes:  "Vulnerability is one of the best ways to build bonds with people, whether in your family, your circle of friends, or your professional team and organization. Vulnerability teaches them that you are approachable and that you need others to help you develop answers and embrace feedback." "The more you go in an organization, the more people you lead, the more you become a role model. You're also visible as a role model to people you do not interact with daily, both inside and outside your organization."  "If the map differs from the terrain, go with the terrain. This means assessing the situation in real time, getting inputs from every team member on that special assignment, and making a new plan, which hopefully is a winning plan." Takeaways: ·Reflect on Your Leadership Style: Take 10 minutes to write down how you respond to mistakes and feedback. Are you open to vulnerability, or do you default to defensiveness? Identify one behavior you can adjust to build trust with your team. ·  Build Genuine Connections: Schedule one conversation this week with a team member to learn their personal or professional story. Ask questions that show you care about their perspective and challenges. ·Challenge Long-Held Beliefs: Identify one assumption you rely on when making decisions. Ask yourself, “What if this isn’t true?” and explore how adapting your approach could improve outcomes.  Practice “Fearless Learning”: Pick a recent setback and outline what went wrong without assigning blame. Write down one concrete action to improve your approach next time. Create a Commitment Plan: Draft a one-page outline with three areas to focus on: how you’ll lead yourself, lead your team, and lead your organization. Revisit it regularly to stay aligned with your goals. Timestamps: [00:00] Introduction & Why Happiness Matters [04:00] The Science Behind Social Connection [08:00] Redefining Happiness for Introverts [10:00] The 45 Cardinal Virtues Explained [12:00] The Six App and Measuring Key Moments [17:00] How the Brain Creates Happiness [19:00] Longevity and Social Bonds [20:00] Love vs. Fear in Leadership [24:00] Oxytocin, Trust, and Connection [30:00] Healing Division Through Empathy [33:00] Emotional Fitness and Therapy [36:00] Building Happy, Sustainable Organizations [38:00] Personal Lessons & Reflections [44:00] Leading with Love and Practical Kindness [45:00] Final Takeaways & Resources   Conclusion: To thrive in today’s demanding world, leaders must embrace human-centric leadership. Great leadership starts with self-awareness and a commitment to personal growth. By fostering empathy, encouraging open feedback, and seeing vulnerability as a strength, leaders create environments where teams feel valued and empowered. Practicing fearless learning—letting go of rigid assumptions—enables leaders to adapt and guide their organizations through uncertainty. Ultimately, the most effective leaders prioritize authentic relationships, inclusion, and continuous growth, ensuring their teams can innovate, collaborate, and succeed while building cultures that endure beyond immediate challenges.   Links/Resources: Website: https://www.getimmersion.com/  Download the SIX app here: https://your6.com/  Book: https://a.co/d/9IIYijt  LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-j-zak-91123510/
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  • Mark C. Crowley: Beyond Engagement: Building Workplaces Where People Truly Flourish
    Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.   Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.   Episode recap: In this powerful conversation with Mark C. Crowley, author of Lead from the Heart and The Power of Employee Wellbeing, we discussed the growing realization that employee engagement without well-being is hollow—and how genuine human connection, frequent feedback, and emotional awareness drive real performance.   Other highlights from the episode: Why belonging is the new foundation of well-being. How unresolved trauma shapes leadership—and how awareness leads to healing. Why resilient leaders embrace uncertainty and learn through “two-way doors.” How care and accountability together create workplaces people want to stay in.   Mark’s message is simple but radical: when people feel cared for, they thrive—and so do organizations.   Tune in to explore how leading with heart isn’t soft—it’s smart, strategic, and deeply human.   Guest Bio: With twenty-five years in the competitive financial services industry, Mark C. Crowley rose to national roles, earning Leader of the Year for his emotionally connected, heart-centered approach that drove exceptional performance and employee growth. His book Lead from the Heart (2011, second edition 2023) disrupted conventional management with research proving that traditional methods undermine employee achievement. Now taught in eleven universities, it ignited a global movement for humane leadership. In his new book, The Power of Employee Well-Being, he advances this vision, demonstrating that thriving teams fuel organizational success. Mark’s Lead from the Heart podcast, ranked in the top 1.5 percent globally, reaches 175+ countries.   Quotes: Feelings and emotions drive behavior. Engagement is literally a decision of the heart." "If you don't know yourself, how could you possibly manage other people? You're not well-informed." "Belonging isn't just connection. It's emotional safety, respect, and the freedom to be who you are." "When you make decisions, think about how they'll make people feel. That's what it means to lead with love." "The work experience should not be something people dread. Create a culture where people want to belong."   Key Takeaways Know yourself before you lead others. Reflect on your upbringing and motivations. Hidden childhood influences often shape your leadership habits. Clarify your values. Define what you stand for, and let those values guide every decision—even when it costs you short-term success. Build belonging. Create environments where people feel safe, respected, and accepted for who they are. Lead with love. You don't need to say "I love you" at work. You show it by caring about how people feel and treating them with kindness. Embrace uncertainty. Replace fear with curiosity and experimentation—model calm confidence during change.   Timestamps [00:02] The failure of the engagement industry [02:29] Mark's return to the show and his new book, The Power of Employee Well-Being [02:52] A childhood without love shaped a new kind of leadership philosophy [07:13] The evolution of "heart-based" leadership and why it's now mainstream [10:59] Why engagement hasn't improved in 12 years—and how companies got it wrong [16:51] Moving from engagement to well-being as a leadership priority [17:23] The first key drivers of well-being: Know thyself and know thy values [24:03] Why values matter more than performance—and the courage to protect culture [27:15] The most significant driver of well-being: Belonging and emotional safety [30:41] How to lead through uncertainty with confidence and hope [37:04] The link between childhood wounds and leadership behavior [41:52] Why workplace change is inevitable—and how well-being is the future [48:56] How to lead with actionable love every day [51:17] Why work should never be something people dread [53:13] Where to connect with Mark and explore his work   Conclusion: Mark C. Crowley's message is clear: the future of leadership depends on humanity. Employee engagement may have stalled, but well-being is the key to unlocking performance, retention, and innovation. When leaders know themselves, honor their values, and build genuine belonging, they create workplaces where people thrive. Leading with love isn't soft—it's strategic.   Links/Resources:  Website – https://markccrowley.com/ Book - https://www.amazon.com/Power-Employee-Well-Being-Engagement-Flourishing/dp/B0DRXGD4YK/ LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/markccrowley/ Podcast - https://markccrowley.com/podcasts/ Thank You!  
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  • Ed Frauenheim: Liberating Masculinity
    Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. Powered by 100% renewable energy and recently named a Denver Broncos Small Business Partner, TerraSlate combines durability with sustainability. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.    Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.    Episode recap:  In this Love in Action podcast episode, guest Ed Frauenheim discusses the concept of "confined masculinity"—the traditional view that men must be stoic, dominant, and self-reliant—which often leads to emotional suppression, poor relationships, and health issues. Ed shares his personal experiences, including a mild heart attack and a cancer diagnosis, as moments that forced him to reevaluate his own masculinity. He and co-author Ed Adams propose "liberating masculinity" as an alternative—one that embraces compassion, emotional expression, connection, and vulnerability. Their book, Reinventing Masculinity, outlines how this new model can lead to better well-being, stronger relationships, and more effective leadership. The conversation emphasizes that healthy masculinity is about balance—integrating both traditionally “masculine” and “feminine” traits. It’s not about rejecting strength, but expanding what strength means.    Guest Bio: Ed Frauenheim is a soulful storyteller, a writer, speaker, and consultant who has focused on workplace, technology, and culture matters for more than 25 years. His stories have been featured in USA Today, Harvard Business Review, and Fortune. Ed spent six years as director of content at Great Place to Work, the global consultancy that produces the annual Fortune 100 Best Companies to Work For list. His co-written book, Reinventing Masculinity, outlines the way to better well-being, stronger relationships, and more effective leadership.   Quotes  “Winning isn’t everything.”  “We’re told to be tough all the time. The truth is, we need to be tough and tender.”  “Clear courage today is emotional: naming pain, asking for help, and saying ‘I love you, man.’”  “Curiosity turns know-it-alls into learn-it-alls.”  “Liberating masculinity lets a man truly love—in every sense of the word.”    Takeaways  Name the trap. Confined masculinity prizes stoicism, domination, and lone-wolf myths; it shortens lives and weakens teams.  Practice the Five C’s.  Curiosity: Ask more, assume less.  Compassion: Start with self-kindness; pain is human, not a personal failure.  Connection: Men need men—find healthy brotherhood (walk-and-talks, groups, circles).  Courage: Include emotional and moral courage (own privilege, apologize, seek help).  Commitment: Build weekly habits (journaling, check-ins) so change sticks.  + Contemplation (BONUS): Prayer/meditation to return to your best self.   Lead with both/and. Tough-minded on standards; tender-hearted with people.  Model vulnerability. Leaders who share struggles (mental health, setbacks) unlock trust and performance.  Redesign rewards. Promote for humility, empathy, and learning—not just charisma and conquest.    Timestamps  [00:00] Marcel’s intro + why masculinity matters now  [04:00] Ed’s story: success on paper, struggle inside  [07:00] Health wake-ups: heart attack, cancer—and choosing help  [09:30] Defining confined masculinity (stoic, self-made, self-sacrificing)  [13:30] How we got here: history, culture, and alternatives  [18:00] The antidote: liberating masculinity & the Five C’s  [22:00] Self-compassion vs. self-pity; Kristen Neff’s insights  [27:00] Connection without shame: men’s groups that work  [31:00] “Tough & tender” leadership in action (ski industry example)  [36:00] Curiosity: from know-it-all to learn-it-all  [38:30] Role models at the top: soulful leadership that performs  [41:00] Homework: journal, join a men’s group, contemplation  [44:00] Women & promotion: why the wrong traits get rewarded—and how to fix it  [48:00] Faith in men: most guys are more supportive than we think  [50:30] Leading with love: start by listening  [51:30] Final takeaway: fuller lives are possible—for all of us    Conclusion: Ed Frauenheim’s story reminds us that true strength isn’t found in silence or self-reliance but in the courage to connect, feel, and grow. By embracing “liberating masculinity,” men can lead with both toughness and tenderness—creating healthier families, stronger teams, and more compassionate workplaces. Leadership rooted in love and curiosity fosters trust, innovation, and long-term success. As Ed’s journey shows, self-compassion and connection are not signs of weakness but pathways to wholeness. The future belongs to men who have the courage to lead with heart.   Links / Resources  Book: Reinventing Masculinity: The Liberating Power of Compassion and Connection (Ed Frauenheim & Ed Adams): https://a.co/d/clezbvM   Connect with Ed on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ed-frauenheim-685294/  Website – https://www.edfrauenheim.com/   Substack (Ed’s Cancer Journey) - https://frauentimes.substack.com/  
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  • Kyle Ewing on Leading Multiple Companies, Culture, Delegation, and AI
    Today’s episode is made possible by TerraSlate. TerraSlate Waterproof Paper is waterproof, rip-proof, and recyclable — no more laminating sheets, and no more wasted paper. TerraSlate prints through any standard laser printer and can be written on with a regular ballpoint pen. Powered by 100% renewable energy and recently named a Denver Broncos Small Business Partner, TerraSlate combines durability with sustainability. From ocean dives to mountain summits, it’s trusted by the NFL, the U.S. military, and Michelin-starred restaurants to perform when nothing else does. If your work matters, make it last.  Visit TerraSlate.com and make your ideas indestructible.    Marcel sits down with Kyle Ewing, CEO and founder of TerraSlate, a two-time Inc. 5000 honoree known for creating waterproof paper used by top restaurants and NFL teams. Kyle shares his journey from Olympic-level skiing to entrepreneurship and building multiple companies. He shares how his Inverted Pyramid Leadership model—where leaders serve their teams—drives TerraSlate’s success. He breaks down core values of grit, growth, focus, and candor, his “buy back your time” principle for scaling, and his Business Navigator Operating System for helping founders start and scale their businesses. Kyle also explores using AI as a “co-CEO”, documenting systems, and leading with clarity, kindness, and accountability.    Kyle Ewing is the CEO and Founder of TerraSlate. Under his leadership, TerraSlate has been featured in Forbes, The Wall Street Journal, USA Today, the Denver Post, and NPR, and twice named to the Inc. 5000 list of fastest-growing private companies. Beyond TerraSlate, Kyle also founded Big Island Honey, Windward Equity, and Cube Dynamics, and invests in Sustainability Partners to advance eco-conscious innovation. He blends business acumen with heart-centered leadership, reminding us that leading with love unlocks true potential. Kyle has been recognized with Business Elite’s “40 Under 40” and as a two-time Titan 100 award winner in Colorado.    Quotes  “Leading with love is doing the hard thing, not the easy thing.”  “Don’t delegate the task, delegate the outcome—and always state the why.”  “Clear is kind. The worst thing you can do to someone is delay feedback.”  “Culture isn’t soft. It’s the system that scales your company.”  “If someone else can do it for less than your hourly rate, delegate it right now.”  “AI doesn’t replace you. It replicates your thinking so your people can lead without fear.”    Takeaways  Flip the leadership pyramid: serve your team so they can serve your customers.  Document everything. Systems free people to lead with humanity. Delegate outcomes, not tasks, and always explain the purpose.  Build a “Co-CEO” AI system to preserve your company’s institutional knowledge.   Timestamps:  [00:00] Welcome and intro to Kyle Ewing  [03:00] From Olympic trials to business rebirth  [06:00] The origin of TerraSlate and waterproof paper  [10:00] Redefining leadership through service and empathy  [14:50] The four values driving TerraSlate’s success  [21:30] The art of delegation and owning the outcome  [26:30] Time hacking and the buyback rate  [29:30] Building a “Co-CEO” using AI  [33:00] Speed round: lessons, decompression, and legacy  [35:00] How to lead with love and practical kindness  [37:50] Why true networking happens in service, not events  [39:10] Closing: scaling business with heart    Links/Resources:  Website: kyleewing.com TerraSlate: terraslate.com Instagram: @kyleewingofficial LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/kyleewing     
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The Love in Action Podcast—ranked #33 among the 100 Best Leadership Podcasts and in the top 2% of shows worldwide—is where leadership meets humanity. Hosted by global influencer, author, and executive coach Marcel Schwantes, the show features candid conversations with bestselling authors, visionary executives, and thought leaders who are redefining what it means to lead. Whether you want to sharpen your leadership skills, create a culture people love to work in, or grow your business by putting people first, you’ll find practical wisdom and inspiring stories to help you get there.
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