BiggerPockets Real Estate Podcast

Nick Burke knew he wanted to invest, but in his high-priced New Jersey market, buying a cash-flowing rental property was close to impossible. He needed to find an affordable market, somewhere with population growth, equity upside, and houses below the $100K price point. He did it, but in a city, 99% of investors have completely written off arguably too soon. 

Now, Nick owns a rental property portfolio of seven houses, using the “BRRRR” method (buy, rehab, rent, refinance, repeat), to build an entire rental portfolio with very little money out of pocket. He’s done what most investors never thought of—buying his first true rental with a credit card, managing renovations from hundreds of miles away, and going 50/50 with a partner when he didn’t have the cash.

If any of that sounds too risky for you, Nick proves that if you’ve got your head on straight, you can make it work with all of these options. Just two years later, Nick’s portfolio has made him hundreds of thousands of dollars richer in equity, and he’s even gotten paid to buy rentals! All it took was taking the leap and realizing he, too, could build wealth in real estate.

This is his exact strategy for scaling so quickly, without a ton of cash to start.

In This Episode We Cover

How to use the BRRRR method to make tens of thousands in equity immediately 

Buying a rental property with a credit card?! The 0% interest move Nick made that paid off

The #1 most important person on your out-of-state investing team (you cannot miss this!)

Nick’s exact buy box for finding an affordable, cash-flowing real estate market

Investing while working a 9-5 job? Why it’s more than possible even if you’re managing renovations 

And So Much More!

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It’s the middle of Spring, traditionally the busiest time in the housing market. But this year…things have changed. The market isn’t following regular patterns; some new concerns and opportunities are emerging and starting to approach the horizon.

Are real estate investors prepared for what’s about to come? 

We’re back with this month’s housing market update, going over everything from mortgage rates to foreclosures and housing crash risk, how long homes are sitting on the market, and a silver lining for investors that most Americans are missing. But there are some concerns. 

One all-important metric for real estate investors is changing, and many rental property owners aren’t prepared for it. This could lead to lower profits, reduced cash flow, and, for those already struggling to pay the mortgage, foreclosures. Who’s in danger, and which areas of the country are most at risk? 

Plus, with delinquency rates rising and foreclosures increasing, are we at the tipping point of entering a dangerous housing market, or is this merely a return to normal, working its way through the system?

In This Episode We Cover

May 2026 housing market update: mortgage rates, foreclosures, rent trends, and more

Why investors may see their cash flow get squeezed, especially in these areas 

More price cut opportunity? Homes sit on the market longer, but when should you bid?

Americans (surprisingly) get back to buying, with pending sales seeing significant changes 

Updated risk of a housing crash: Does climbing delinquency signal a bigger problem? 

And So Much More!

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Are “tenant-friendly” states actually making investors richer? Ever since we started investing, people have always told us to invest in “landlord-friendly” states—places with quicker eviction laws, no or limited rent control, and fewer license requirements and fees. But most Americans will know that the top-appreciating markets like California, New York, Washington, and Hawaii are tenant-friendly. 

Are investors leaving money on the table by not investing in these more regulated markets?

Today, we’re getting to the bottom of it. We’ll explain what a tenant-friendly vs. landlord-friendly state is, the real dangers of investing in a tenant-friendly state, whether rent control could kill your real estate investing business, and why not all “landlord-friendly” states are so friendly to your bottom line.

The question is: would we invest in any of these “riskier” markets for landlords? Yes, but with one big caveat. If you can lock one specific skill down, you can invest in the most tenant-friendly states without ever going through an eviction, and make huge appreciation along the way. 

In This Episode We Cover

Landlord-friendly vs. tenant-friendly states: the biggest differences between the two

Do tenant-friendly states actually make investors more money?

Rent control, rental licenses, and long evictions: how to plan for all of them 

States with the worst (and best) laws for real estate investors 

Would we invest in a tenant-friendly state? And if so, how would we protect ourselves? 

And So Much More!

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5 paid-off rentals vs. 15 rentals with mortgages. We get this question a lot: Should I pay off my rental properties or use the ⁠cash flow⁠ to keep scaling? Many investors believe you need a dozen or more rentals to become financially free. So, in today’s show, we’re going to show you the overlooked math behind having five paid-off ⁠rental properties⁠, and whether it’s worth it to keep scaling to over a dozen doors.

I’ve modeled out both scenarios (pay off rentals vs. buy more) to see which gets you to ⁠financial freedom⁠ faster, which leaves you with a bigger net worth, and which pumps out more cash flow so you can do what you want with your time. We’re using real, inflation-adjusted numbers: $400K home prices, $250/month cash flow, 30-year loans. These are the types of deals we’re buying even in 2026.

So which scenario would Dave pick? Dave has a clear answer on the option he thinks is best for most real estate investors, and what to do if you pay off your rental properties but want to scale slowly when the right deal arrives.

If you’ve got some cash burning a hole in your pocket, this is the episode to hear before you make a move. 

How Logan scaled to 14 rental units and nearly $8,000 in monthly cash flow

Buying his first rental property at 18 with no credit, no experience, and just $15,000

Several ways to find off-market rental properties for sale (and fund them!)

How to scale your real estate portfolio faster while keeping your W-2 job

Why house hacking is a no-brainer for people looking to break into real estate

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5 paid-off rentals vs. 15 rentals with mortgages. We get this question a lot: Should I pay off my rental properties or use the cash flow to keep scaling? Many investors believe you need a dozen or more rentals to become financially free. So, in today’s show, we’re going to show you the overlooked math behind having five paid-off rental properties, and whether it’s worth it to keep scaling to over a dozen doors.

I’ve modeled out both scenarios (pay off rentals vs. buy more) to see which gets you to financial freedom faster, which leaves you with a bigger net worth, and which pumps out more cash flow so you can do what you want with your time. We’re using real, inflation-adjusted numbers: $400K home prices, $250/month cash flow, 30-year loans. These are the types of deals we’re buying even in 2026.

So which scenario would Dave pick? Dave has a clear answer on the option he thinks is best for most real estate investors, and what to do if you pay off your rental properties but want to scale slowly when the right deal arrives.

If you’ve got some cash burning a hole in your pocket, this is the episode to hear before you make a move. 

In This Episode We Cover

5 paid-off rental properties vs. 15 rentals with mortgages: which makes more money?

How much faster do you reach financial freedom if you pay off your mortgages early?

The multi-million dollar difference between the two scenarios (but is it worth it?)

How Dave is combining the two scenarios to “harvest” his cash flow while scaling

Proof you don’t need a huge portfolio to become a multimillionaire 

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