Support American Friends of Israeli Navy Seals: AFINS.us/warriorcareRegister here for the Live Call me Back event at the Streicker Center on Thursday Oct 23: https://t.co/Y5tCz9uXwoRonen Bergman and Adam Rasgon’s piece in The NYT: https://bit.ly/475B5nFIlan Benatar’s essay on Sinwar’s plan: https://medium.com/@ilanbenatar/the-story-is-the-war-f6482ab94c1fSubscribe to Inside Call me Back: https://inside.arkmedia.orgGift a subscription of Inside Call me Back: http://inside.arkmedia.org/giftsSubscribe to Amit Segal’s newsletter ‘It’s Noon in Israel’: https://arkmedia.org/amitsegal/Watch Call me Back on YouTube: youtube.com/@CallMeBackPodcastCheck out Ark Media’s other podcasts: For Heaven's Sake: https://lnk.to/rfGlrA‘What’s Your Number?’: https://lnk.to/rfGlrAFor sponsorship inquiries, please contact:
[email protected] contact us, sign up for updates, and access transcripts, visit: https://arkmedia.org/Ark Media on Instagram: https://instagram.com/arkmediaorgDan on X: https://x.com/dansenorDan on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dansenorTo order Dan Senor & Saul Singer’s book, The Genius of Israel: https://tinyurl.com/bdeyjsdnToday’s Episode: On today’s episode, we are joined by Israeli journalist and Call me Back veteran Ronen Bergman. Ronen recently published a piece for the New York Times titled “A Memo in a Bunker, Intercepted Communications and Hamas’ Oct. 7 Plans,” in which he and his co-author Adam Rasgon discuss a recently uncovered six-page memo from August of 2024, which Israeli officials believe was written by Yayha Sinwar, the leader of Hamas in Gaza and main architect of the October 7 massacre. Dan and Ronen discuss how this memo – as well as other documents discovered earlier in the war – shed light onto Hamas’s goals in launching the attack, and whether, in retrospect, they succeeded. (00:00) - Introduction(07:23) - Sinwar’s memo recently discovered in Gaza(09:45) - How Hamas meticulously documented its activity(12:42) - How do we know this was written by Sinwar?(13:51) - What this document directed Hamas forces to do (15:15) - Hamas terrorists ordered to record and broadcast their crimes(20:20) - Sinwar’s strategy behind broadcasting October 7(26:03) - What Sinwar got right, and what he got wrong(28:53) - How Hamas activated support worldwide(33:39) - 10 Hamas protocols obtained by the IDF in January, 2024(37:25) - How Hamas managed to deceive Israel(38:43) - How Hamas chose the date of October 7, 2023(42:47) - Collaboration between Hamas in Doha and in Gaza(44:33) - Sinwar’s goal of igniting regional war(46:17) - Disrupting Saudi normalization and releasing Palestinian prisoners (49:04) - Sinwar succeeded at terrifying Israelis(50:46) - The next phase in Gaza will determine the outcome of the war CREDITS:ILAN BENATAR - Producer & EditorADAAM JAMES LEVIN-AREDDY - Executive ProducerMARTIN HUERGO - Sound EditorMARIANGELES BURGOS - Additional EditingMAYA RACKOFF - Operations DirectorGABE SILVERSTEIN - ResearchYUVAL SEMO - Music Composer
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