Drawing Conclusions through the Framework of Failure
In this pivotal episode of our series, we combine the critical lessons uncovered throughout episodes 1 - 10, offering conclusions on the complexities of aviation failure and organizational breakdown.
What You’ll Discover:
- A comprehensive recap of the Boeing 737 MAX 8 saga, analyzed through the four phases of the Framework of Failure—showcasing how technology evolution, Boeing’s cultural shifts and program decisions, engineering flaws, regulatory gaps, and systemic failures culminated in catastrophe.
- Thought-provoking reflections on causality, accountability, and prevention, exploring what went wrong, who holds responsibility, and how the aviation industry can avoid similar tragedies in the future.
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Response: Making Sense of Response
This episode delves into a series of fascinating stories emerging from the Response to the 737 MAX 8 crashes, vividly illustrating the ongoing and contentious debate surrounding cause and blame.
We see how differing perspectives and accurate information mixed with incorrect or dubious information influence perceptions, conclusions, actions, and outcomes. This helps us appreciate how Response unfolds imperfectly.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
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Response: What Was Said and Done
What typically happens after major accidents and disasters?
The answer is a clustershambles of its own making – a mess of competing interpretations and acrimonious conflict. The MAX 8 saga is an excellent example of this.
This episode covers the full range of investigations and events following the two tragic crashes, presenting them in nine related buckets. See the big picture before we explore a few fascinating stories.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
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Occurrence: The Ethiopian Airlines Disaster
This episode uncovers the astonishing story behind the crash of Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302, the second Boeing 737 MAX 8 disaster in just four and a half months. Despite clear warnings and data showing another crash was possible, industry leaders never even considered grounding the aircraft until a fix to the flawed MCAS system could be made.
What’s even more incredible? The crew, fully aware of MCAS, still lost control. But here’s the twist: the chaos in the cockpit unfolded in two gripping phases—and MCAS didn’t even come into play until the second. Pilot errors and a flawed MCAS system fused together to create this aviation disaster.
Get ready to dive deep into the hidden details, hard truths, and stunning missteps that changed aviation safety forever.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
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Occurrence: The Lion Air Disaster
The tragic crash of Lion Air Flight 610 marked the beginning of a dark chapter for the Boeing 737 MAX 8, exposing critical design flaws and systemic failures. This was not an isolated event—warnings had surfaced in a prior flight emergency and in other issues on earlier flights. Yet these red flags were ignored.
This episode examines the days leading up to the crash, the immediate fallout, and how the aviation industry’s failure to address the flawed MCAS system set the stage for a second tragedy.
Instead of confronting the dangers, Boeing and regulators obscured the risks, withheld vital information from pilots and airlines, and promoted procedural changes by pilots while working in the background to modify MCAS’s fatal design.
Access detailed show notes at: www.bradivie.com/podcast.
Acerca de Maximum Clustershambles - The Boeing 737 MAX 8 Saga
Discover the Saga:
Delve into the gripping, multifaceted story of the Boeing 737 MAX 8 tragedies—Lion Air Flight 610 and Ethiopian Airlines Flight 302. This must-listen podcast reveals the critical decisions, engineering failures, organizational missteps, and disastrous events that shook the world.
What You'll Learn:
• The high-stakes business pressures and corporate decisions behind the 737 MAX.
• The design flaws and certification failures of the MCAS system—critical factors in the crashes.
• A detailed breakdown of the two fatal crashes and the chaotic months between them.
• The global investigations, public responses, and their lasting impact on aviation safety.
Why Listen?
If you're fascinated by aeronautical engineering, air disasters, or the complexities of organizational failure, this series offers a detailed and eye-opening look at one of aviation’s biggest scandals.
Learn more at www.BradIvie.com.
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