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This week’s episode of “Jesuitical” features a conversation with journalist Helene Stapinski and her son, Dean Jamieson, a fiction writer from Brooklyn who, now in his 20s, finds himself drawn to the Catholic Church his mother left behind two decades ago because of the sex abuse crisis.
Zac, Ashley, Helene and Dean discuss:
- Helene’s faith journey, from a “cradle Catholic” and member of the Jesuit Volunteer Corps to a mom disillusioned by the church’s sex abuse scandal and culture-war stances
- How Dean became “Catholic curious” in college and started attending Mass, drawn to the aesthetics, anti-consumerist values and sense of community he found in the church
- How the priest at Dean’s local parish in Brooklyn has sought to actively engage young adults and welcome them (and sometimes their parents) back
In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss Vice President JD Vance’s accusations that the U.S. bishops were being critical of the Trump administration’s crackdown on immigration because it would hurt their “bottom line”; the threat to Catholic Charities by Trump’s directive to freeze federal financial assistance programs; and the Vatican’s latest document on “the relationship between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence” that addresses the ethical challenges raised by AI and warns against “creating a substitute for God.”
Links for further reading:
“Turning Out, Tuning In? I left the Church, but now my twenty-something kids seem drawn to it”
Vice President Vance: Thank you for making headlines about the bishops’ care for immigrants
JD Vance suggests U.S. bishops only care for immigrants to protect ‘their bottom line’
Trump executive order will strip funds from Catholic Charities, White House says
New Vatican document on A.I. warns against ‘creating a substitute for God’
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The greatest Catholic writers you (probably) haven’t heard of
This week’s episode of “Jesuitical” features a conversation with James T. Keane, senior editor at America and columnist for the Catholic Book Club, a weekly newsletter on literature and the arts. Jim’s new book, Reading Culture Through Catholic Eyes, explores 50 Catholic writers, thinkers, and “firebrands” who have influenced Catholic culture—and yes, as Jim’s colleagues, we may sound a little biased when we say it’s well worth the read. Just take our word for it. Even better, grab a copy and see for yourselves.
Zac, Ashley and Jim discuss:
- What makes someone a “Catholic writer”
- Why so many of us get stuck on the same Catholic writers
- The works of three lesser-known Catholic authors: Myles Connolly, Andre Dubus and Mary Karr
In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss inauguration prayers for the 47th U.S. president Donald J. Trump offered by Pope Francis, Cardinal Timothy Dolan, Father Frank Mann and Episcopal Bishop Mariann Budde; the Cuban government’s plan to release 553 prisoners in response to Pope Francis’ Jubilee request to set the captives free; and increased family benefits for Vatican City-State employees.
Links for further reading:
Reading Culture through Catholic Eyes: 50 Writers, Thinkers, and Firebrands Who Challenge and Change Us
Pope Francis assures Donald Trump of his prayers, but says mass deportations would be a ‘disgrace’
If the Catholic Church is pro-life, why is its maternity leave so bad?
After the election, people may know your political party—but will they know you’re a Christian?
God lifts up the underdogs
Lean into love, not fear, this World Day of Migrants and Refugees, Beirut Jesuit pastor tells preachers
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59:20
JRS USA President Kelly Ryan on refugees, Trump and the role of the church
On “Jesuitical” this week, Zac and Ashley chat with Kelly Ryan, the president of Jesuit Refugee Service USA, about her 30 years of experience working with refugees, asylum seekers and migrants in light of a second Trump administration. A two-time U.S. presidential political appointee, Kelly has also worked extensively with faith-based organizations, including the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops and the Holy See.
Zac, Ashley and Kelly discuss:
- The origins of Jesuit Refugee Service, from its founding in 1980 by Pedro Arrupe, S.J., to assist refugees, especially those fleeing the Vietnam War
- Challenges at the U.S. southern border, including the dangerous journeys many migrants make and the difficulties in processing their asylum claims
- Concern about potential changes to refugee admissions and deportation policies under the incoming Trump administration
In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss Pope Francis’ autobiography Hope, which features critical reflections about his rowdy youth and staunch defenses of his most controversial moves; plus they chat about the 2025 College Football National Championship between the University of Notre Dame and Ohio State University, including some words on Marcus Freeman, Notre Dame’s current coach, a Catholic convert—and a former Buckeye.
Links for further reading:
Opening doors at Advent and all year long: How J.R.S. responds to the plight of refugees
Pope Francis acknowledges mistakes and defends most controversial decisions in new autobiography
Notre Dame story
Father Pedro Arrupe: a controversial Jesuit’s bumpy path to sainthood
A Jesuit border priest on Trump and the plight of migrants
109th World Day of Refugees and Migrants Message from Pope Francis
Jesuit Refugee Service
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51:09
Cardinal McElroy, DC’s new archbishop, wants a church of ‘radical inclusion’
On Jan. 6, Pope Francis announced that Cardinal Robert McElroy will be the next archbishop of Washington, D.C. Cardinal McElroy, currently the bishop of San Diego, spoke with Zac and Ashley on the “Jesuitical” podcast back in 2023, and this week, they’re revisiting that conversation. In it, Cardinal McElroy embraces the synodal vision and pastoral approach of Pope Francis and calls upon the church to dismantle the “structures and cultures of exclusion” that alienate some Catholics, including women, the poor, divorced-and-remarried couples and L.G.B.T. Catholics.
Zac, Ashley and Cardinal McElroy discuss:
- Cardinal McElroy’s 2023 article in America on the Eucharist and radical inclusion for L.G.B.T. people, women and others
- Why synodality is the connective tissue of the Catholic faith that enables us to work through disagreements in communion
- How to handle polarization in the church on issues like sexuality, marriage, racism and poverty
In Signs of the Times, Zac and Ashley discuss President Joe Biden’s decision to commute the death sentences of 37 of the 40 prisoners on federal death row to a sentence of life in prison without parole; Pope Francis’ appointment of Italian missionary nun Sister Simona Brambilla as the first woman to lead a major Vatican dicastery; and the exciting news that a soccer-loving Catholic nun from Brazil is officially the oldest living person at nearly 117.
Links for further reading:
Cardinal McElroy to lead D.C. archdiocese, Vatican announces
Cardinal McElroy on ‘radical inclusion’ for L.G.B.T. people, women and others in the Catholic Church
Biden commutes 37 death row sentences before Trump can resume executions
A woman leads a Vatican office for the first time ever. Why now?
Historic first: Pope Francis appoints woman as prefect of Vatican dicastery
A soccer-loving nun from Brazil is world’s oldest living person at nearly 117
Zac’s New Year’s recommendation: What if you're already on top of things?
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Could the plot twist in “Conclave” actually happen?
On “Jesuitical” this week, Zac and Ashley chat with Colleen Dulle, an associate editor at America and co-host of the “Inside the Vatican” podcast, about how realistically the new film “Conclave” portrays the process of selecting a new pope. They praise the film’s historical accuracy but raise eyebrows over the complex theological implications around the film’s twist ending. Warning: This episode contains major spoilers.
Zac, Ashley and Colleen discuss:
- The challenges of translating the complexities of the Catholic Church to a mainstream audience through a cinematic lens
- Varying reactions to “Conclave” from Catholics, including Bishop Robert Barron’s critique of the film
- The role and representation of women, including nuns, in the Catholic Church as depicted in the film
In Signs of the Times, Zac, Ashley and Colleen discuss Pope Francis’ new autobiography Hope, which reveals two assassination attempts on his life during his trip to Iraq in 2021; and a recent liturgical debate sparked by Cardinal Blase Cupich’s guidance to parishioners in the Archdiocese of Chicago that discouraged kneeling to receive Communion.
Links for further reading:
‘Conclave’ explainer: Could that twist ending really happen?
Your Take: Is ‘Conclave’ worth seeing for Catholics?
‘Conclave’ hits theaters. What really happens when a new pope is elected?
Pope Francis reveals he survived two assassination attempts during visit to Iraq
Hope: The Autobiography by Pope Francis
Should you stand or kneel to receive communion? Cardinal Cupich stirs debate after weighing in
What’s on tap?
French 75s
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Welcome to Jesuitical, a podcast for young Catholics hosted by two young, lay editors at America—Zac Davis and Ashley McKinless. Each episode features a guest who offers a unique perspective on faith, culture or current events. We also bring you some of the top (and maybe more obscure) Catholic news of the week. And we'll ask: Where do we find God in all this?