In this episode, I sit down with Barrett Brooks, coach to some of the biggest creators in the industry, to break down the five traps that keep creators stuck below one million in revenue and how to avoid each one.We talk about why search and algorithms are shifting, how to stop chasing “greener” business models, and why risk aversion quietly kills momentum.Barrett also shares the patterns he sees working with top creators, how to double down on what’s working without burning out, and the mindset shift every entrepreneur must make to step into true leadership.If you’re feeling stuck on the path to seven figures, this episode is your roadmap.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:11 Why creators get stuck below $1M04:43 Betting your business on what used to work07:44 Search, AI, and the future of traffic13:28 Believing another business model will be easier18:55 The grass-is-greener trap explained27:13 Letting risk aversion kill your momentum33:49 Playing out the worst-case scenario40:23 Moving on too fast from what is working49:43 Building systems vs chasing new ideas55:25 Hiring without stepping into leadership01:03:16 How to lean into conflict and feedback01:07:21 Final thoughts on breaking throughIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Barrett:Podcast: https://goodworkshow.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/barrettabrooksX: https://twitter.com/barrettabrooksInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/coachbarrettbrooksWebsite: https://barrettbrooks.comFeatured in this episode:Good Work Show: https://goodworkshow.comBarrett Brooks: https://barrettbrooks.comKit: https://www.kit.com
--------
1:08:25
--------
1:08:25
The Most Important Advice For Creators in 2025 (Nathan Barry Q&A) | 093
In this episode, I sit down with Haley from the Kit team, to answer audience questions about building creator businesses, growing newsletters, and scaling software companies.We cover everything from how to find a solo SaaS idea as a non-technical founder, to mapping out a creator business from scratch, to scaling newsletters and identifying blue ocean opportunities. Haley also brings her behind-the-scenes perspective from working with creators at Kit.If you want a practical look at audience growth, business models, and the future of creator tools, this episode has it all.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:08 Finding SaaS ideas as a non-technical founder07:36 Mapping out a creator business from scratch18:25 Building a music career today vs streaming revenue22:58 The power of storytelling and setting public goals29:18 Newsletter growth strategies and creator pods35:54 Identifying blue oceans in crowded markets41:58 Gathering customer feedback the right way48:32 Choosing the right early hires in today’s AI-driven world50:46 Biggest strategic mistakes and lessons learned01:03:40 Wrap-up and reflectionsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Haley:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/haleyjaniLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/haley-janicekX: https://x.com/haleyjanicekFeatured in this episode:Kit: https://www.kit.comCreator Network: https://kit.com/creator-networkCraft + Commerce: https://kit.com/conference
--------
1:05:59
--------
1:05:59
From Jail to $30M: How I Rebuilt My Life and Career | 092
In this episode, I sit down with Ryan Beck, co-founder of Pray.com, a $30M platform reaching 10M people a month, to talk about his journey from jail at 18 to building one of the most impactful companies in the faith and creator space.We dive into Ryan’s backstory, how he and his co-founders built Pray.com, and the systems churches use that modern creators can learn from. Ryan also shares lessons on building double flywheels, turning sermons into scalable content, and how AI is transforming faith-based media.If you want to understand how to scale community, content, and revenue with timeless principles, this episode is for you.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:00 Ryan’s journey from jail to a new path05:15 Studying ministry, computer science, and philosophy09:20 From nonprofits to launching Pray.com13:05 How Pray.com scaled to 19M downloads16:21 The double flywheel model of B2C and B2B21:29 Pastors as the most prolific content creators25:15 Derivative content and monetization strategies29:41 What creators can learn from in-person community34:10 Dave Ramsey and mission-driven business models40:12 Evergreen content and repurposing systems47:00 How Pray.com leverages AI for translation and media55:10 Building AI Bible and reimagining storytelling01:00:00 Why email is still the number one channel for creatorsIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Ryan:LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/purposePray.com: https://www.pray.comFeatured in this episode:Pray.com: https://www.pray.comAI Bible: https://www.aibible.comDave Ramsey: https://www.ramseysolutions.comKit: https://www.kit.com
--------
1:03:35
--------
1:03:35
From Stuck Revenue to Scalable $5M Growth in One Year | 091
In this episode, I sit down with Caitlin Copple for a coaching session to map out how she can scale her PR agency, Full Swing, from $1.2M to $5M by shifting from custom services to scalable productized offers.We dive into why retainers cap growth, how to package services into clear visibility outcomes, and the low-overhead path to building a multi-million dollar agency. Caitlin also shares the challenges of managing a team, navigating growth plateaus, and how to design offers that scale without burning out.If you want to grow a services business into a scalable, strategy-first agency, this episode is a blueprint.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:10 The challenge of scaling a PR agency past $1M05:28 Why retainers cap growth potential09:22 Turning strategy into a scalable product14:33 Building the first version of a productized offer19:18 Pricing visibility outcomes instead of hours23:41 The mindset shift for moving beyond custom services28:05 Designing a low-overhead path to $5M33:27 Structuring a scalable offer ladder39:15 Simplifying client delivery without losing value44:58 The role of personal brand in agency growth50:10 How to transition clients from retainer to productized model54:46 Setting up the systems to sustain scale01:00:12 Final coaching takeawaysIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Caitlin:Website: https://fullswingpr.comLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlincoppleInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/caitlin_coppleX: https://x.com/caitlincoppleFeatured in this episode:Full Swing PR: https://fullswingpr.comKit: https://www.kit.com
--------
1:00:03
--------
1:00:03
From Zero To $1M From Content - My 2025 Strategy (Pat Flynn) | 090
In this episode, I sit down with Pat Flynn, entrepreneur, podcaster, and founder of Smart Passive Income, to talk about how creators can build long-term, resilient businesses by putting relationships and community first.We dive into how Pat went from architect to online entrepreneur, his journey to building multiple 7-figure income streams, and why his approach has always focused on trust before transactions. Pat also shares his lessons from podcasting for over a decade, how he’s embracing new platforms like YouTube Shorts, and his strategies for staying relevant in a fast-changing digital world.If you want to build a creator business that stands the test of time, this episode is for you.Timestamps:00:00 Introduction01:00 How Pat went from architect to entrepreneur06:28 Starting Smart Passive Income and finding his niche10:45 The importance of serving before selling15:14 Why Pat doubled down on podcasting20:37 Building multiple streams of income26:52 Lessons from over a decade of audience building32:11 How to stay relevant as platforms evolve38:09 Experimenting with YouTube Shorts and video content43:25 Balancing family, business, and creative projects49:18 The key to long-term audience trust55:03 Final thoughts and takeawaysIf you enjoyed this episode, please like and subscribe, share it with your friends, and leave a review. I read every single one.Learn more about the podcast: https://nathanbarry.com/showFollow Nathan:Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nathanbarryLinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nathanbarryX: https://twitter.com/nathanbarryYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@thenathanbarryshowWebsite: https://nathanbarry.comFollow Pat:Website: https://www.smartpassiveincome.comInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/patflynnX: https://twitter.com/patflynnYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PatFlynnPodcast: https://www.smartpassiveincome.com/shows/spiPat Flynn's Book "Lean Learning": https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/166802764X?tag=spimedia2020-21&keywords=lean%20learning%20pat%20flynn&geniuslink=true Featured in this episode:Smart Passive Income: https://www.smartpassiveincome.comThe Smart Passive Income Podcast: https://www.smartpassiveincome.com/shows/spiPat Flynn’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@PatFlynnPat Flynn's Pokémon YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@deeppocketmonsterKit: https://www.kit.comPat Flynn's Book "Lean Learning": https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/166802764X?tag=spimedia2020-21&keywords=lean%20learning%20pat%20flynn&geniuslink=true #patflynn #deeppocketmonster #leanlearning #entrepreneur #creator #businessgrowth
As the CEO of Kit, Nathan Barry has a front row seat to what’s working in the most successful creator businesses.
On The Nathan Barry Show, he interviews top creators and dives into the inner workings of their businesses in his live coaching sessions.
You get unique insight into how creator businesses work and what you can do to increase results in your own business.
One of the things Nathan is passionate about is helping you create leverage.
Creator Flywheels let you create many copies of yourself so you don’t get bogged down with the little things in your business. Flywheels will help you reach a place where you can focus on revenue instead of busywork.
Tune in weekly for new episodes with ideas and tips for growing your business. You’ll hear discussions around building an audience, earning a living as a creator, and Nathan’s insights on scaling a software company to $100M.
Learn how to get more results with less effort and:
Grow faster over time.
Work less hard over time.
Make more money over time.
Colombia