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Liz Dye
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  • Ep 153 — The Shadow Docket Gets Shadier
    The Supreme Court can’t be bothered to do real law — but they still expect trial judges to read their minds and treat those nebulous shadow docket orders like binding precedent. And that invisible ink precedent says that Trump can fire anyone, anywhere, at any time. Abrego Garcia is still dancing on the knife edge between Trump’s DOJ and his DHS. And we explain why the current state of our media is all Hulk Hogan’s fault.   Links:   SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order Trump v. Wilcox https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a966_1b8e.pdf   SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order Trump v. Boyle https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/25a11_2cp3.pdf   Harper v. Bessent Docket https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69951586/harper-v-bessent/   Abrego Garcia v. Noem [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69777799/abrego-garcia-v-noem   US v. Garcia [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70475970/united-states-v-garcia   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod  
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  • Ep 152 — Trial Judges Know What’s Up
    Today on the show  the First Circuit is reversing DOGE’s “DEI” cuts at NIH. Trump is suing the Wall Street Journal for defamatory reporting that he was friends with that pedophile he used to party with all the time. And trial courts are calling SCOTUS’s shadow docket bluff. Plus, Alina Habba is headed for the exit.   Links:   SCOTUS Shadow Docket Order Dept. of Education v. California https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a910_f2bh.pdf   American Public Health Association v. National Institutes of Health  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70621936/american-public-health-association-v-national-institutes-of-health/   CREW v. OMB https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69858087/citizens-for-responsibility-and-ethics-in-washington-v-office-of/   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod  
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  • Ep 151 — This Is All The Supreme Court’s Fault
    What do Trump’s plans to fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell, level illegal tariffs, and stuff the court with his cronies have in common? They’re all the fault of the Supreme Court’s six conservatives. Then we’ll take a break from … all this … and learn some more civil procedure from Justin Baldoni.   Links:   Can Trump Actually Fire Fed Chair Jerome Powell? https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/can-trump-actually-fire-fed-chair   SCOTUS Order in Trump v. Wilcox https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a966_1b8e.pdf   Lively v. Wayfairer https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69510553/lively-v-wayfarer-studios-llc/?order_by=desc   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod  
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  • Ep 150 — SCOTUS Allows Trump To Burn Down Department of Education
    The Supreme Court is handing out lit matches and gasoline to the arsonist in chief and inviting him to burn down the Department of Education. Attorney Pam Bondi keeps inventing new ways to be corrupt, and none of them have to do with Jeffrey Epstein. And DHS is now kidnapping IP along with actual human beings. Plus, for subscribers, we’ll talk about an effort by Americans United for the Separation of Church and state’s efforts to save the Johnson Amendment from the DOJ’s collusion with the Christian right. Links:   Trump v. Selzer  https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69476247/trump-v-selzer/   US v. Plastic Surgery Institute of Utah https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/66735053/united-states-v-plastic-surgery-institute-of-utah/   Two-thirds of the DOJ unit defending Trump policies in court have quit https://www.reuters.com/legal/litigation/two-thirds-doj-unit-defending-trump-policies-court-have-quit-2025-07-14/   Black Rebel Motorcycle Club Instagram C&D https://www.instagram.com/p/DL8JVH7OIJ-/?utm_source=ig_embed&ig_rid=63f144d7-f9ed-4213-8170-f6432849d3fb   US v. Amesty https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69553068/united-states-v-amesty/   Judge Orders ICE Goons To Stop Racial Profiling And Start Following The Constitution https://www.lawandchaospod.com/p/judge-orders-ice-goons-to-stop-racial   Vasquez Perdomo v. Noem https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70594806/pedro-vasquez-perdomo-v-kristi-noem/   Supreme Court stay New York v. McMahon https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/24pdf/24a1203_pol1.pdf   National Religious Broadcasters v. Werful https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/69105317/national-religious-broadcasters-v-werfel/   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod  
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  • Ep 149 — You Cannot Lie (To Judges) When Whistleblowers Have Receipts!
    Trump’s executive order stripping citizenship from children of immigrants has been enjoined again. Will the Supreme Court burn down another plank of civil procedure just to avoid ruling on it? And DOJ whistleblower Erez Reuveni is dropping receipts! He’s got all the texts and emails that prove Trump’s henchman Emil Bove ordered the DOJ to defy court orders. That’s going to make it a lot harder for his former colleagues to lie to judges in immigration cases, and those judges are already PISSED. Plus Republican state AGs in Florida and Missouri are wilding out. And for subscribers, let’s talk about Trump’s threats to tariff Brazil for prosecuting former president Jair Bolsonaro.   Links:   Barbara v. Trump [Docket via Court Listener] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/70651853/barbara-v-trump/   MO AG Andy Bailey threatens AI for MEAN TO TRUMP https://ago.mo.gov/attorney-general-bailey-fights-to-expose-big-tech-censorship-of-president-trump-as-ai-chatbots-produce-fake-news/   Erez Reuveni Whistleblower Disclosures https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/press/dem/releases/durbin-releases-documents-corroborating-justice-department-whistleblowers-allegations-against-embattled-trump-judicial-pick-emil-bove   J.O.P. v. Department of Homeland Security [District Court Docket] https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/15867241/jop-v-us-department-of-homeland-security   Show Links: https://www.lawandchaospod.com/ BlueSky: @LawAndChaosPod Threads: @LawAndChaosPod Twitter: @LawAndChaosPod  
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Ignorance of the law is no excuse! That’s true for a traffic stop, and it’s true if you want to participate in whatever’s left of American democracy. If the events since the 2016 election taught us anything, it’s that tuning out is not an option. Legal journalists Liz Dye and Andrew Torrez break down the week’s most important courtroom stories, so you can keep on top of this crazy news cycle. Whether it’s Texas giving two middle fingers to the Supreme Court, or Donald Trump in all the courts at once, we’ve got you covered.
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