True Crime Conversations

At 8:49am on a Tuesday morning in November 2022, 30-year-old Jessica Zrinski was captured on CCTV in the passenger seat of a blue Holden Commodore pulling into a service station in Mount Victoria. Trailing from her passenger door was a massive tree branch, and driving the car was Paul Jones, a man she had met outside a Western Sydney pub just hours earlier.
Those eight minutes and 40 seconds of footage would be the last time Jessica was ever seen alive. Soon after, Jones vanished off the grid for nearly three years, eventually located by police living in a camouflaged cave in dense bushland before being subpoenaed to give evidence at her coronial inquest.
In this episode of True Crime Conversations, NewsCorp investigative journalist Ashlea Hansen joins Gemma Bath to unpack the bizarre timeline, the extensive searches through the Blue Mountains bushland, and what Jessica’s family hopes to finally learn as the inquest resumes.
LINKS
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CREDITS
Guest: Ashlea Hansen
Host & Executive Producer: Gemma Bath
Senior Producer: Tahli Blackman
Producer: Ella Maitland
Group Executive Producer: Ilaria Brophy
Video Editor: Julian Rosario
Audio Designer: Tegan Salder
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In November 2022, four college students: Kaylee Goncalves, Madison Mogen, Xana Kernodle, and Ethan Chapin, were brutally stabbed to death in their off-campus share house in Moscow, Idaho. Seven weeks later, criminology student Bryan Kohberger was arrested and eventually accepted a plea deal, receiving four life sentences without the possibility of parole to avoid the death penalty.
Now, Kohberger is back in the headlines after filing for post-conviction relief. In this update episode of True Crime Conversations, Gemma Bath is rejoined by journalist and author Vicky Ward following the release of the updated edition of The Idaho Four: An American Tragedy.
LINKS
Find out more about Vicky Ward’s book The Idaho Four: An American Tragedy here.
If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636.
Contact Full Stop Australia on 1800 385 578, 7 days, 24 hours.
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CREDITS
Guests: Vicky Ward
Host: Gemma Bath
Producer: Ella Maitland
Video Editor: Jess Chan
Audio Designer: Tegan Salder
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In October 2019, 23-year-old Sarah Rosenberg went on a date at Sydney’s noodle markets with a man she had recently met on a dating app. But when they returned to his place and Sarah explained that she was feeling unwell and didn’t want to be intimate, the night turned into a horrific nightmare.
What followed was a grueling journey through a legal system that often felt like it was putting Sarah on trial rather than the man accused. From having her private medical and therapy records subpoenaed to enduring four and a half days of brutal cross-examination without her own lawyer, Sarah experienced firsthand how deeply the justice system can disempower survivors of sexual violence.
In this episode of True Crime Conversations, Sarah Rosenberg joins Gemma Bath to share her story, expose the hidden realities of reporting sexual assault in Australia, and discuss how her experience led her to found With You We Can, a registered charity and legal education platform designed to support victims navigating the process.
Together, they examine the urgent need for structural reform, the push for independent legal representation for victim-survivors, protecting confidential counselling records, and how to restore agency to those seeking justice.
LINKS
If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636.
Contact Full Stop Australia on 1800 385 578, 7 days, 24 hours.
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Follow us on Instagram and TikTok @truecrimeconversations
Want us to cover a case on the podcast? Email us at truecrime@mamamia.com.au or send us a voice note.
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CREDITS
Guests: Sarah Rosenberg
Host: Gemma Bath
Senior Producer & Producer: Tahli Blackman & Ella Maitland
Video Editor: Julian Rosario
Audio Designer: Tegan Salder
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In March 2021, police in South Australia’s Flinders Ranges uncovered a shallow grave containing the body of 21-year-old Jasmeen Kaur. What forensic pathologist Professor Roger Byard discovered during her autopsy, soil inhaled deep into her airways revealed a horrifying truth: Jasmeen had been buried alive.
In this episode of True Crime Conversations, Gemma Bath sits down with Professor Roger Byard, one of Australia’s most respected forensic pathologists, following his recent retirement from an extraordinary career. He opens up about investigating the horrific Snowtown murders, identifying victims of the Bali bombings and Boxing Day tsunami, and what four decades on the frontline of death has taught him.
LINKS
If any of the contents in this episode have caused distress, know that there is help available via Lifeline on 13 11 14 or Beyond Blue on 1300 22 4636.
Contact Full Stop Australia on 1800 385 578, 7 days, 24 hours.
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CREDITS
Guests: Roger Byard
Host: Gemma Bath
Producer's: Tahli Blackman & Ella Maitland
Video Editor: Julian Rosario
Audio Designer: Tegan Salder
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It’s a cold July night in Melbourne in 2013 when an elderly neighbour hears terrifying screams coming from the home next door. When police arrive, they find 49-year-old Teresa Mancuso murdered in her parent's garage, the victim of a vicious act of family violence at the hands of her ex-husband.
Though Teresa’s two sons, Daniel and Luke, knew immediately who was responsible, it would take two excruciating years of living in fear before their father was finally arrested and charged.
Grieving and back in the house where their mother died, the brothers found unexpected hope through the fence. Their Greek neighbour, a loving grandmother, began passing home-cooked meals to the boys, adopting them as her own and ultimately inspiring a movement now known as Yiayia Next Door.
In this episode of True Crime Conversations, Daniel Mancuso joins us to reflect on his mother’s legacy, navigating deep grief, breaking the cycle of family violence, and turning community kindness into a powerful movement for change.
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CREDITS
Guests: Daniel Mancuso
Host: Gemma Bath
Senior Producer: Tahli Blackman
Producer: Ella Maitland
Video Editor: Julian Rosario
Audio Designer: Tegan Salder
Mamamia acknowledges the traditional owners of the land on which we have recorded this podcast.
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