The Grove Podcast

In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Gigilo sits down with her friend and longtime Grove girl, Jennie Lusko. Jennie Lusko is a best-selling author, podcast host, wife, mom of five, and she pastors Fresh Life Church alongside her husband, Levi. Shelley and Jennie have a heartfelt conversation about becoming the women God designed us to be.  Together they reflect on the surprising ways God prepares us for our callings long before we understand them, and how flourishing often comes through seasons of difficulty, perseverance, and small acts of obedience.

Jennie shares candidly about marriage, motherhood, loss, and the slow, steady growth that happens when we plant ourselves in community. Shelley offers wisdom on practicing obedience, cultivating awareness, and fighting the good fight of faith — even when we don’t feel it. Their conversation is full of encouragement for women who are in the in-between seasons, waiting for fruit, longing for clarity, or navigating the tensions of real life. It’s a reminder that God is faithful in every step, and that we flourish best when we walk together.

The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected.

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In this episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio sits down with her dear friend and a long-time Grove girl, Courtney Pray Duke, to celebrate the release of Courtney’s book And She Got Up : Shattered by Loss, Restored by Jesus and to trace the journey that shaped it. Courtney shares how everything changed in her life the day Andrew died in a bicycle accident — an instant that turned a bright day into “the darkest night of the soul.”
With honesty and tenderness, Courtney recounts the disorienting fog of grief, the fight to keep going for her three young children, and the unexpected ways God met her in the lowest moments. From a pivotal encounter with God at Passion 2013 to the daily practice of anchoring her life in scripture, Courtney unpacks how faith can be tested in the fire — and how God’s presence can become most real in the valley.
Shelley and Courtney also talk about the power of community, learning to speak truth out loud, and the long obedience of writing the story down. Ultimately, this conversation is an invitation: if Jesus brought life to her story, He can bring life to yours too. And She Got Up releases on February 24, but you can pre-order your copy today. Learn more at AndSheGotUp.com and keep up with Courtney on her Instagram @CourtneyPrayDuke.
The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected.

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What kind of legacy are you building? Where does it begin?
In this honest conversation, Dr. Crawford Loritts joins Shelley Giglio to talk about faith, family, and the work of God that will shape generations. From the role of prayer in parenting to the importance of repentance and humility before God, this episode is a reminder that lasting legacy is not built on perfection, but in surrender to Jesus.
Dr. Crawford shares deeply personal stories from his own life and family, reflecting on the power of prayer, the role of repentance in parenting, and the importance of staying faithful to what God has asked you to do. They discuss how spiritual legacy is formed over time through obedience and reverence for God, not through strategy, perfection, or performance.
This conversation offers wisdom on breaking generational cycles, embracing God as Father, and choosing to become what you did not receive.
Whether you’re a parent or simply longing to break generational patterns, this conversation will encourage you to start where real transformation begins – at the feet of Jesus.
The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected.

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When life doesn’t go as planned, how do we keep trusting that God is still good?
In this episode, Shelley Giglio is joined by Grammy-nominated artist Natalie Grant for a vulnerable look at surrender, trust, and identity. Natalie shares how walking through thyroid cancer, a diagnosis that threatened her voice, became a catalyst for her deeper faith, helped her root her identity in Jesus, and how she’s learning to release control in motherhood and life. 
Whether you’re walking through uncertainty or just need a reminder that God is near, this episode will encourage you to pause, remember His faithfulness, and rest in His presence.
The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit TheGroveOnline.com to get connected.
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The Christmas Grove
Dates: December 8 + 9 
Time: Doors open at 6:30p | Gathering starts at 7:30p
Location: Passion City Church // 515 Garson Dr., Atlanta, GA
Visit TheGroveOnline.com/Christmas for more information.

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In a brand new episode of The Grove Podcast, Shelley Giglio is joined by the brilliant and bold Jackie Hill Perry for a conversation about faith, formation, and the unexpected places God does His deepest work.
Together, Shelley and Jackie unpack the wrestle with ambition, the gift of hidden seasons, and how God often meets us in our lack to show us that He alone is enough.
They explore the importance of spiritual disciplines — not as rigid rules but as pathways to freedom, relationship, and fruitfulness. And they encourage us to believe that God really does use every part of our story to make us more like Jesus.
Wherever you are — leading, waiting, hoping, or trying your best to believe — it’s our prayer that this conversation will lift your eyes to His presence and His power at work in your life.
The Grove is an extension of all God is doing at Passion City Church in Atlanta, Georgia. To learn more, follow us on Instagram @pcc_thegrove or visit thegroveonline.com to get connected.

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