Final Forum: A Dragon Ball Podcast

• BONUS: Jelli's Trip to Japan PART II

  We've still never heard of editing but we HAVE heard of Dragon Ball this time...kind of. Join Jelli and Bekinney as we catch up after just a couple weeks. Bekinney discusses a new book series he's reading, while Jelli delves back into Japan, walking through Osaka, Dotonbori, Tanuki statues, the Orix Buffaloes, Expo 2025 (which leads us into a brief discussion of the movie Gamera vs Jiger) the Curse of the Colonel and the Hanshin Tigers, Hiroshima and Peace Park, and the Hotel Gracery or the Godzilla Hotel in Tokyo. Jelli also talks about some general tips for travel and alludes to a video that may or may not ever happen. We also discuss The Princess Bride, and the Buffalo Bills, and Dragon Ball Gekishin Squadra   Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through our lives. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social 

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• Fake Namek (S4E14)

  How do you pad for time between arcs? Are those Crows? What awaits us as we begin a new story arc? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 41 through 45: "Look Out Below," "The Search Continues," "A Friendly Surprise," "Brood of Evil," and "Frieza Strikes." We begin discussing the Namek Saga and attempt to break down some filler episodes and preview this new arc. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney try to plot their next move The run of great episodes is over, but let's not lose hope. Breaking down the names for Raiti and Zaacro, as well as Cui Attempting to evaluate the Treedon birds through the lens that they might be crows and looking at how crows are viewed in Japan Cannibalism? One of us totally would. Which one will (not) shock you Jack and the Beanstalk and its origins as a very different story from the one we know A little bit about Group TAC, which allows us to talk about the voice talents behind Pokemon's Mewtwo, and get tangentially into a wild tokusatsu movie... ...Rex: A Dinosaur's Story, the tale of how a baby tyrannosaurus rex is raised by a little girl, gets in a food fight, escapes marketing executives on a snowmobile after stealing a Christmas cloak from Colonel Sanders and the story of how the movie's production led to the arrest of the head of Kadokawa for smuggling drugs A bit about Japan's Sesssho-seki, or Killing Stone famous in Tochigi Prefecture Nautilus, their shells, the Golden Ratio, the Fibonacci Sequence, and illusions We're not grasping at straws AT ALL Setting the stage using examples from X-Men, DCEU and Journey to the West Vegeta's history as the heir to the throne, and his early life Some of Toriyama's thoughts on Vegeta, at least early in the story Vegeta and Goku: Opposite sides of the same coin How Vegeta so internalizes the lessons he learns as a child that it shapes his entire worldview, and how the very existence of Goku flies in the face of said worldview The Six-Eared Macaque from Journey to the West, one of Sun Wukong's most formidable foes Some researched theories about the relationship between Wukong and Six-Ears and how that is mirrored by the relationship between Goku and Vegeta The Lego series Lego Monkie Kid and its portrayal of Six Ears Why Vegeta is always invoking his prince status as if it is a boast, despite there being only a handful of Saiyans left Why Vegeta is so relatable and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social

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• BONUS: Jelli's Trip to Japan and Casual Catchup

  Dragon Ball? Editing? Never heard of those things. Join Jelli and Bekinney as we catch up after six weeks of not talking much. Bekinney discusses a family reunion and riding sketchy rides on the boardwalk, including the Himalayan, and Jelli regales everyone with the first week of his trip to Japan, with his usual penchant for rambling and self-indulgence We also discuss Superman, Thunderbolts, Captain America: Brave New World, Better Man, Robbie Williams, Paddington in Peru, James Gunn's DC universe, Jurassic World Rebirth, and provide one of the only reviews you're likely to hear about the movie Brush of the God.   Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through our lives. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social 

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• The World's Strongest Commentary (S4E13)

  What would have happened if they saved Hitler's brain and put it in the body of a robot with a bubble-dome? What does the film Phantasm have to do with Dragon Ball? How did we manage to work in a reference to the Aum Shinrikyo cult that carried out multiple poison attacks on Japanese public transit in the early 90s?  The answers to these, and similar questions, abound as Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon by tackling the 1990 movie, The World's Strongest. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney narrowly escape disaster We sync up our audio commentary for the listeners We discuss some of the production facts about the film Dragon Ball Z: The World's Strongest such as its 1990 release at the Toei Manga Matsuri film festival, the film's box office, and the production team working on the film We talk about the other films released alongside the movie: Akuma-kun: Welcome to Devil Land, and Mitsuteru Yokoyama's Sally the Witch movie. A little history about Misuteru, including his creation of Tesujin 28, Babel II, Iga no Kagemaru, Sally the Witch, and adaptations of Romance of the Three Kingdoms and Water margin Contextualizing the box office of the film Shedding light on Shinji Fukumitsu, the editor, who worked on Dragon Ball Z, Gegege no Kitaro, One Piece, and Transformers: The Movie A little bit on Motoaki Ikegami and his career spanning Neon Genesis Evangelion, Dr Slump, Pokemon, Inuyasha and Twilight of the Cockroaches Discussing the film's unique antagonists, Kishime, Ebifurya, Misokatsun, Dr. Kochin, and Dr. Wheelo (or Uiro) Misokatsun --> Buyon --> The Blob --> horror movies --> Nightmare on Elm Street 3 (yes, really) A bit about the Funimation composer, Nathan Johnson and his career, including his time as a Texas state senator (Nathan) Johnsons, (Anthony) Wieners, adult film parodies of Chinese classic novels...things are coming unglued A bit about the Metaluna Men from This Island Earth, Hal 9000 from 2001: A Space Odyssey, and Universal Monsters movies, especially Ghost of Frankenstein and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual as we react to this wickedly fast-paced film Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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• Saiyan Arc Manga Review (S4E12)

  We've reached the end of the Saiyan Arc. How do we feel about it having reached its end and being primed for the next adventure? Jelli and Bekinney continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball by jumping into comparing the Dragon Ball anime to the Dragon Ball manga. We continue discussing Saiyan arc, and talk about pacing. We also discuss five episodes of the anime, episodes 36-40, "Picking Up the Pieces," "Plans for Departure," "Nursing Wounds," "Friends or Foes," and "Held Captive." In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney destroy the gravity generator We recap the story a little bit Wukong Hospital and Goku's unique looking hospital bed, with a possible inspiration from Alien Bulma's outfit being inspired by Alien, and its possible influence on Hideaki Anno's Neon Genesis Evangelion A theory about Bulma's evolving hairstyles A brief discussion of Frank Frazetta, the "godfather of fantasy art" who was a well-renown illustrator who worked on Conan the Barbarian and John Carter of Mars among other things in his career A conversation about the Russian attempts to place mirrors in space, and a brief tangent into discussing Archimedes' Sun Death Ray Wrapping up the arc with grades and comparing the manga to the anime and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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