Final Forum: A Dragon Ball Podcast

• King Kai (S4E7)

  What do centuries of isolation with only a monkey as company do to a martial arts master? Is the blue catfish man really a martial arts master? What's with all the dad jokes? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 16 through 20: "Plight of the Children," "Pendulum Room Peril," "The End of Snake Way," "Defying Gravity" (and to think, we barely make any Wicked references), and "Goku's Ancestors." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about Goku's newest teacher, King Kai. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are in a rather desperate situation Is Pigero like the Artful Dodger from Oliver Twist? Or is he more like Rufio from Peter Pan/Hook? Good vs bad filler Do King Kai's jokes translate between languages? (We're actually asking) What episodes are cut out of the Ocean Group dub? Why HFIL happened and how and why things got altered wit a brief overview censorship An all-too-brief discussion of Funimation's history releasing Dragon Ball, DBZ, and their partnerships with the Ocean Group and Saban Entertainment Translating Kaio-sama to King Kai and/or The Lord of Worlds King Kai's design including his clothing from the Qing Dynasty, and his teashade sunglasses from John Lennon, or is it Mahatma Gandhi? And what is a Mahatma anyway? And who was Mahatma Hirandanda, and what of his Mewad Remayana manuscript? The deity Prince Rama and how he might tie-in to King Kai Catfish? No. What about fireflies?  Genji's Firefly Hitodama and a Return of Ultraman reference to hitodama kaiju Femigon The Tale of Genji or the Genji Clan aka the Minamoto Lamenting to loss of a great pun, but a promise to revisit when we discuss Dragon Ball Daima in the future and delve into Warp Sama and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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• Daima Discuss-DONE. The Future of Dragon Ball

  Dragon Ball Daima is over. The dub has been released in full. What now? Where does the franchise go from here? Where CAN it go from here? What would we LIKE for it to do now? Join Jelli and Bekinney as we continue looking at Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball franchise by tackling a discussion of Dragon Ball's "State of the Union." Recapping where things stand in the animated area of the franchise, the manga and of course, current video games. We talk about where Dragon Ball Super last left off with the Super Hero arc being completed and the big Black Frieza teaser left out there. We talk about the four big video games currently being supported in the Dragon Ball world that led to Dragon Ball being Bandai Namco's number one money earner for the past fiscal year, namely The Breakers, Xenoverse 2, Kakarott, and Sparking Zero. We also talk about James Gunn's Superman, Sinners, Friendship, Paul Rudd, Tim Robinson, I Think You Should Leave, The Dark Tower, Stephen King, Holly Gibney, and of COURSE....lawnmowers.   oin us for this more casual conversation as we dig through the franchise in a post-Daima world and continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social 

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• Snake Way (S4E6)

  Do you walk this lonely road? Is it the only one you've ever known? Do you not know where it goes? But it's home to you and you walk alone? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 11 through 15: "Terror on Arlia," "Global Training," "Goz and Mez", "Princess Snake," and "Dueling Piccolos." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about Snake Way, and Princess Snake. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are on a new and strange planet Ox Head and Horse Face? Goz and Mez? Gozu and Mezu? We highlight the cultural underpinnings of a pretty good filler episode  The Sanzu River and the River Styx and a brief foray into Dante's Inferno The dream logic of Princess Snake, and the episode featuring Russian roulette Whether Princess Snake is inspired by a Nure-onna or an Uwabami and the importance of Snakes in Japanese culture Snake Way Snake Street in Nezu, in Tokyo, and its history along the Aizen River Torii gates Snake Way being a physical manifestation of the metaphysical Yellow Path or Sacred Path or Path Within Us from Shintoism and Buddhism Why falling off Snake Way is punished by a visit to Hell, or HFIL depending on what version of the show you're watching The Han Dynasty afterlife concept of the Yellow Springs How the cycle of reincarnation works and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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• King Yemma - Enma Daio (S4E5)

  What does it take to be the 'man' sitting in front of the entry to the afterlife, judging souls? Why did we accidentally slip in to a discussion of the Ox King? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 6 through 10: "No Time Like the Present," "Day 1," "Gohan Goes Bananas," "The Strangest Robot," and "A New Friend." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga (now that the Raditz Arc is officially already over), and talk about King Yemma. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney make ready for their next planetary expedition It's WWE time. Full Nelsons, Ruffy Silverstein, Hans Mortier, Bruno Sammartino, Hulkamania, The Warlord, the Powers of Pain, the Road Warriors, and Superstar Billy Graham. What do they have to do with Dragon Ball? Maybe nothing! The connection between King Yemma in Dragon Ball Z and the character Enma from Dr Slump The Hindu version of Enma, or Yama, and his history and mythology The Buddhist version of Yemma, Yama, and his role in the afterlife How these two characters fuse into the depiction of King Yemma Possible inspiration points from Dante's Inferno, as well as the depiction of St. Peter guarding the Pearly Gates A note about Nemuria and its connection to Lemuria, Mu, Atlantis and other Lost Continents Yamcha's team, the Taitans and why it's not spelled Titan with our tokusatsu reference for the day in the form of Ultraman (and Ultraman Tiga vs Ultraman Taiga) Somehow, a discussion of the Ox King and his ability to be Gohan's grandfather while navigating the parenting styles of both Goku and Chichi and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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• It's Rad! Raditz! (S4E4)

  What could Goku's next challenge possibly be now that he's the Strongest Under the Heavens? A sibling rivalry? Is that really all you got, Toriyama? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by breaking down episodes 1 through 5: "The New Threat," "Reunions," "Unlikely Alliance," "Piccolo's Plan," and "Gohan's Rage." We begin discussing the Saiyan Saga (or the Raditz Arc under the new terminology), and talk about Raditz as well as the pivot into DBZ. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney recuperate from their hard-fought battle We talk about the pivot into Dragon Ball Z Why is it called Dragon Ball Z? What role did Kozo Morishita, Takao Koyama, Kazuhiko Torishima, Yuu Kondo, and Akira Toriyama play in the decision to rebrand the show DBZ? We discuss whether this pivot is good or bad and talk a bit about everyone's favorite topic in Dragon Ball: Power Levels Raditz. His design, his inspirations, and his motives, we take a look at them and break them down in our typical fashion, talking about Saiyans and Toriyama's puns in the process. How does Raditz compare to Darth Vader, play on David vs Goliath, tie into Osomatsu-kun, Jane Eyre, Great Expectations, and the Bible? How does Jelli sneak in a kaiju/Godzilla reference this time? and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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