Final Forum: A Dragon Ball Podcast

• Ginyu Force Arrives! Recoome and Guldo (S4E20)

  They appear as a full team for approximately 1% of the franchise, and yet the Ginyu Force leave an indelible mark up Dragon Ball. How do they do it? Is it their flashy poses, their sense of style, their group dynamic? What is it about these five warriors that make them so memorable? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 61 through 65: "Hidden Power," "New Ally, New Problem," "Guldo's Mind Binds," "Recoome Unleashed," and "Let the Battle Begin." We are officially into the GINYU Saga and we're taking a look at the eponymous Ginyu Force, especially zeroing in on Recoome and Guldo. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are looking out the window. Still. A much better batch of episodes The Ginyu Force as a microcosm of Toriyama's sensibilities - subversive, parody, colorful, fun, powerful, self-contradictory, everything he likes Breaking down the name Ginyu Tokusentai into a discussion of what toku and sentai might mean to American audiences Talking about Super Sentai, including Shotaro Ishinomori, the creator of Kamen Rider and Super Sentai Ishinimori as the Japanese counterpart to Jack Kirby The impact of Super Sentai on the pop culture landscape and the more well-known American counterpart, Might Morphin Power Rangers The Ginyu Force as a classic Disney trope of a second-in-command villain who's more of a bumbling oaf than a genuine threat Breaking down Ginyu Puns; Ginyu - Dairy, Recoome - Cream, Guldo - Yogurt, Burter -Butter, Jeice - Cheese Delving into Guldo or Gurd His function as the Saibaman of the Ginyu Force Possible comparisons to Herve Jean-Pierre Villechaize, who played Nick Nack in Bond film, the Man with the Golden Gun, and Tattoo on Fantasy Island Possible comparisons to Danny Devito, due to the movie Twins with Arnold Schwarzenegger coming out at this time Diving into Recoome Is Recoome a robot? Recoome as a blend of Sylvester Stallone and Dolph Lundgren, due to the popularity of Rocky IV at the time and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social

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• BONUS: Rumor Control

  Have you heard that Dragon Ball Super Season 2 is coming soon? What about new movies? The continuation of the manga? It’s that time of year where “Dragon Ball Super Season 2” ‘announcements’ plague the rumor mills and every talks about what to expect for 2026, so we’re here to, frankly…ruin everyone’s fun. It’s time to do some rumor control. Join Jelli and Bekinney as we do a casual check-in with our friend Lux Edwards. We talk about Dragon Ball Daima now that it has finished its Toonami airing, and we get into some rumor control. We break down what facts we know about Akio Iyoku, president of Capsule Corporation Tokyo, and his past history with Shueisha. We get into his friendship with Akira Toriyama, and into the ongoing legal stalemate between Capsule Corporation and Shueisha. We don’t out-and-out DEBUNK rumors, but we do tell you to bring some salt to sprinkle on all these rumors. We also bemoan the current lack of a successor to the Goku Black arc’s most hilarious dub line, that has to do with Trunks shouting “Don’t shoot!” We also talk about Predator Badlands, The Chair Company, I Think You Should Leave, Tim Robinson, put a bow on Halloween, discuss upcoming Thanksgiving plans, and just kinda ramble. It’s a casual conversation and nobody felt much like editing, so just come hang with us. Join us for this more casual conversation as we dig through our lives. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social  Binary Breakers: https://binarybreakers.com/ Lux Edwards: https://bsky.app/profile/soulmass218.bsky.social  

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• The Zenkai of Oz (S4E19)

  How do we manage to turn a discussion of zenkai boosts into yet another of our disturbing moments of talking about carnality? Why does Goku do 10,000 reps of his training moves? Where does The Wizard of Oz figure into this? We'll present the information, you tell us if the answer is "anything at all" Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 56 through 60: "Zarbon's Mission," "Gohan, the Hunted," "Unknown Enemies," "Destination Guru," and "Bulma's Big Day." We continue discussing the Namek Saga and take a look at Vegeta's assertion that Saiyans gain a power boost after facing death. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are looking out the window A discussion of how some of the filler here kills the pacing, differently than filler in the past Going back to the Pilaf Arc for a cleanup discussion Comparing Yamcha and Bulma to characters from The Wizard of Oz How the Wizard of Oz utilizes the "it was in you all along" trope and how that was influenced by the bluebird of happiness trope How the bluebird of happiness trope came from the Quran and what influence Journey to the West may have had in bringing in elements of this into Dragon Ball A discussion of Xi Wangmu, the Chinese deity known as the Queen Mother of the West Zenkai boosts A Vegeta impression!? Why zenkai are no longer used, featuring both an in-universe explanation and some head canon that re-defines a certain practice that was most (in)famously utilized by David Carradine (of Kill Bill fame) A Bruce Lee quote concerning the number 10,000 The infamous 10,000 Hours Rule made famous by Malcom Gladwell in his book Outliers What Anders Ericsson, whose research formed the basis for this rule had to say about Gladwell's interpretations A bunch of discussion about practice creating greatness and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social

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• Zarbon and Dodoria (S4E18)

  What do WWE/WWF, King Kong Bundy, Bam Bam Bigelow, Junkyard Dog, David Bowie, the 80s punk rock movement, voice actor Sumi Shimamoto, and the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles have to do with Dragon Ball? We'll present the information, you tell us if the answer is "anything at all" Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 51 through 55: "Vegeta Has a Ball," "The Past and Future," "Zarbon's Surprise," "Guru's Gift," and "Piccolo vs Everyone." We continue discussing the Namek Saga and take a look at Frieza's right-hand men, Zarbon and Dodoria In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are traveling through space The episodes are solid Notes on Dodoria's name pun, and physical appearance, including whether he was originally intended to be yellow rather than pink Confusion about the appearances of a durian fruit, horned melon, jackfruit and pineapple The differences between a tankoban and kanzenban and attempting to equate it to American comics with trade paperbacks and omnibuses King Kong Bundy, his life and career including his run at the top of WWF alongside Hulk Hogan and Andre the Giant, and his appearances on Married with Children Mentions of Bambam Bigelow and Junkyard Dog Musing about whether Dodoria's design was influenced by punk culture Brief notes on Japan's punk scene in the 80s Sliding over to Zarbon Notes about his name pun and appearance The cultural importance of the zabon fruit (aka the shaddock) in Southeast Asian festivals Whether Zarbon is at all influenced by voice actress Sumi Shimamoto from Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind David Bowie and his obsession with Japanese culture Musing on Zarbon's transformation and whether it's a nod to reptiles, or possibly frogs, and then a detour into the realm of TMNT and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social

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• Dragon Ball-oween MINISODE - Bekinney's Top Ten Dragon Ball Attacks

  #1 will surprise you! #10 will titillate you! [insert other clickbait phrase]! Welcome to Final Forum's Dragon Ball-oween Spooktacular! In this special Bekinney-only mini-sode we take a complete break from format, and from breaking down Akira Toriyama's manga and anime smash success to continue our October/Halloween Festivities and on this episode, it's all about attacks....and attempting to pick ten DIFFERENT attacks than Jelli previously picked. That's...scary...right? Probably. So, what will make Bekinney's Top Ten Dragon Ball Attacks? The pool to choose from is ENORMOUS: Vegeta's Final Flash and Galick Gun and Big Bang Attack and Final Explosion, Tien Shienhan's Kikoho, General Blue's Hypnosis, Tao Paipai's Dodonpa aka Dodon Ray, Piccolo's Makonkosappo aka Special Beam Cannon , Frieza's Laser Blasts and Death Ball, Android 16's Hell's Flash, Majin Buu's Candy Beam and Human Extinction Attack, Dabura's Stone Spit, Beerus' Hakai, King Kai's Kaioken, Goku Black's Sickle of Sorrow, Hit's Time Skip, Yamcha's Wolf Fang Fist, Gohan's Masenko and of course Goku's Kamehameha ....and more...? Bekinney threw all these (AND MORE) in a pile and picked out just TEN of his favorites. Who will they be?

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