Final Forum: A Dragon Ball Podcast

• The Magic Begins Commentary (100th Episode! ft. Eric Hates Dragon Ball Z)

  It's our 100th Episode! And we didn't want to celebrate on our own, so we brought in some new friends, Spencer and John from the show Eric Hates Dragon Ball Z to do a commentary-slash-reaction to the second live-action bootleg movie, Taiwan's Dragon Ball: The Magic Begins. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are celebrating 100 episodes We reveal our title and instruct listeners where to find this one We discuss some of the production facts about the film, its 1991 release, and the production team working on the film Discussing the history of Taiwanese cinema Why this movie is on Tubi, Amazon Prime, and official YouTube channels A theory about why this movie looks like it has a budget Forays into the history of China and Taiwan A wild combination of everything being absolutely right and ABSOLUTELY wrong and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual as we react to this insane fever dream of a film Eric Hates Dragon Ball Z Links: https://www.rocktopusnetwork.com/eric-hates-dbz  https://erichatesdbz.libsyn.com/  https://x.com/erichatesdbz  https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8rUZoC6KaDgEo9cnFnMRLw  https://www.instagram.com/erichatesdragonballz/?hl=en  https://discord.gg/7pUnfRf29k  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise, and unspool what we all love so much about Goku, the Dragon Ball franchise, the Dragon Ball anime, Dragon Ball manga, and more.   https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social

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• Saibamen and Attack Balls (S4E8)

  Could Akira Toriyama have pulled inspiration from The Thing for Dragon Ball Z? What would the effects of Saiyan space travel be if it were real? What happens when we come across five stellar episodes of DBZ? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 21 through 25: "Counting Down," "The Darkest Day," "Saibamen Attack!" "The Power of Nappa," and "Sacrifice." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about some new foes: The Saibamen. We also talk about the Saiyan Space Pods, or Attack Balls. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney's situation has become most desperate Just how good are these episodes? For real. Were Saibamen inspired by the Bio Men from This Island Earth? Or perhaps by The Thing from Another World? Maybe by the Xenomorphs of Alien? Perhaps by the titular monsters from The Day of the Triffids? Maybe the pod people from Invasion of the Body Snatchers? More? None? All? Are there any ties between the Saibamen and The Red Ribbon Army? (not really, but there is a minor reference made by the hosts) A possible pull from Osamu Tezuka's manga, Lost World Potential inspiration from Dragon Quest Other variants of Saibamen that appear in video games and a tangent on their naming conventions How fast do Saiyan space pods travel? Is that speed feasible?  What does Saiyan deep space exercise look like? Something to think about when we talk about the exercise requirements of astronauts in space. The gooification of people inside the Attack Balls when they land and the Iron Man problem A possible tie back to Journey to the West, as well as the Chinese emperor Yu the Great A discussion of Soyuz rockets, used by Russian cosmonauts for space travel A brief look at Vostok-1 and Yuri Gagarin's historic feat The Rule of Cool and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social

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• King Kai (S4E7)

  What do centuries of isolation with only a monkey as company do to a martial arts master? Is the blue catfish man really a martial arts master? What's with all the dad jokes? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 16 through 20: "Plight of the Children," "Pendulum Room Peril," "The End of Snake Way," "Defying Gravity" (and to think, we barely make any Wicked references), and "Goku's Ancestors." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about Goku's newest teacher, King Kai. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are in a rather desperate situation Is Pigero like the Artful Dodger from Oliver Twist? Or is he more like Rufio from Peter Pan/Hook? Good vs bad filler Do King Kai's jokes translate between languages? (We're actually asking) What episodes are cut out of the Ocean Group dub? Why HFIL happened and how and why things got altered wit a brief overview censorship An all-too-brief discussion of Funimation's history releasing Dragon Ball, DBZ, and their partnerships with the Ocean Group and Saban Entertainment Translating Kaio-sama to King Kai and/or The Lord of Worlds King Kai's design including his clothing from the Qing Dynasty, and his teashade sunglasses from John Lennon, or is it Mahatma Gandhi? And what is a Mahatma anyway? And who was Mahatma Hirandanda, and what of his Mewad Remayana manuscript? The deity Prince Rama and how he might tie-in to King Kai Catfish? No. What about fireflies?  Genji's Firefly Hitodama and a Return of Ultraman reference to hitodama kaiju Femigon The Tale of Genji or the Genji Clan aka the Minamoto Lamenting to loss of a great pun, but a promise to revisit when we discuss Dragon Ball Daima in the future and delve into Warp Sama and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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• Daima Discuss-DONE. The Future of Dragon Ball

  Dragon Ball Daima is over. The dub has been released in full. What now? Where does the franchise go from here? Where CAN it go from here? What would we LIKE for it to do now? Join Jelli and Bekinney as we continue looking at Akira Toriyama's Dragon Ball franchise by tackling a discussion of Dragon Ball's "State of the Union." Recapping where things stand in the animated area of the franchise, the manga and of course, current video games. We talk about where Dragon Ball Super last left off with the Super Hero arc being completed and the big Black Frieza teaser left out there. We talk about the four big video games currently being supported in the Dragon Ball world that led to Dragon Ball being Bandai Namco's number one money earner for the past fiscal year, namely The Breakers, Xenoverse 2, Kakarott, and Sparking Zero. We also talk about James Gunn's Superman, Sinners, Friendship, Paul Rudd, Tim Robinson, I Think You Should Leave, The Dark Tower, Stephen King, Holly Gibney, and of COURSE....lawnmowers.   oin us for this more casual conversation as we dig through the franchise in a post-Daima world and continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod https://bsky.app/profile/finalforumpod.bsky.social 

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• Snake Way (S4E6)

  Do you walk this lonely road? Is it the only one you've ever known? Do you not know where it goes? But it's home to you and you walk alone? Join Jelli and Bekinney as they continue breaking down Akira Toriyama's worldwide manga and anime phenomenon Dragon Ball Z by looking at episodes 11 through 15: "Terror on Arlia," "Global Training," "Goz and Mez", "Princess Snake," and "Dueling Piccolos." We continue discussing the Saiyan Saga and talk about Snake Way, and Princess Snake. In this episode: Jelli and Bekinney are on a new and strange planet Ox Head and Horse Face? Goz and Mez? Gozu and Mezu? We highlight the cultural underpinnings of a pretty good filler episode  The Sanzu River and the River Styx and a brief foray into Dante's Inferno The dream logic of Princess Snake, and the episode featuring Russian roulette Whether Princess Snake is inspired by a Nure-onna or an Uwabami and the importance of Snakes in Japanese culture Snake Way Snake Street in Nezu, in Tokyo, and its history along the Aizen River Torii gates Snake Way being a physical manifestation of the metaphysical Yellow Path or Sacred Path or Path Within Us from Shintoism and Buddhism Why falling off Snake Way is punished by a visit to Hell, or HFIL depending on what version of the show you're watching The Han Dynasty afterlife concept of the Yellow Springs How the cycle of reincarnation works and more, including some general pop culture, trivia, and editorializing, as usual  Join us as we continue to uncover the cultural meanings, publication facts, inspirations and more behind the wildly popular Dragon Ball franchise. https://www.facebook.com/FinalForumPodcast https://twitter.com/finalforumpod  

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