Cousins with Vince Carter & Tracy McGrady

The NBA on NBC family is in the building! Carmelo Anthony, Reggie Miller, and Jamal Crawford join Cousins hosts Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady for a roundtable full of hoops debates, stories, and laughs.

The panel weighs in on who was toughest to guard in their prime, breaks down the mix of athleticism and fundamentals that makes a player special, and picks the one-on-one trait every hooper needs. They also talk about watching their sons find their own paths in basketball and react to the Knicks ending their championship drought. Mike Tirico pulls up for a visit, and Melo reveals how many suits he plans to bring to NBC telecasts this season.

It’s a meeting of NBA on NBC family, all-time greats, and basketball minds—only on Cousins.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:05 Carmelo Anthony, Reggie Miller & Jamal Crawford Join Cousins

01:48 Who Was the Toughest to Guard in Their Prime?

10:24 The Perfect Mix of Athleticism and Fundamentals

14:01 Xfinity Court Connections: Picking a Teammate for 2-on-2

17:07 The One-on-One Skill Every Player Needs

22:27 Mike Tirico Drops by Cousins

25:55 The Panel Reacts to the Knicks’ Championship Run

31:43 Watching Their Sons Find Their Own Paths in Basketball

36:58 How Many Suits Will Melo Wear on NBC This Season?

37:57 Outro

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Two-time NBA All-Star Antawn Jamison joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to look back on his journey, from growing up in North Carolina and starring at UNC to a 16-year NBA career.

Antawn shares how watching Michael Jordan sparked his love for basketball, how North Carolina’s pickup culture shaped his toughness, and becoming a top-five high school prospect before committing to UNC. He recalls the conversations that helped convince Vince Carter to commit to Chapel Hill, their freshman years together, pushing each other alongside Ademola Okulaja, and playing for Coach Dean Smith.

Antawn takes Vince and T-Mac inside his decision to leave UNC for the NBA, the 1998 NBA Draft night trade that sent Vince to Toronto and Antawn to Golden State, and early struggles that made him question himself. He also looks back on his unforgettable first NBA matchup with Charles Barkley, joining the exclusive 20,000-point club, and battling fellow greats Kevin Garnett and Tim Duncan.

Antawn also reflects on his time with the Washington Wizards, explains why Gilbert Arenas was his favorite teammate, and shares what made their on-court chemistry so special. He and Vince then take it back to their UNC days—from Vince keeping the dorm floor on hip-hop all day to switching it up with R&B at night.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:30 Antawn Jamison Joins Cousins

02:42 How Antawn Fell In Love With Basketball

04:35 Pickup Basketball Culture In North Carolina

07:03 Becoming A Top-5 High School Prospect

10:22 Freshman Year At UNC

15:12 Playing Under Coach Dean Smith

22:16 T-Mac’s Experience Playing Pickup At UNC

25:34 The Deciding Factor In Going Pro

31:38 Xfinity Court Connections

36:15 Getting Traded For Vince On Draft Night

42:59 Vince & Antawn Going Through The NBA Together

44:40 Antawn’s First Few Years In The NBA

47:38 Playing In Washington

53:14 Playing With A Young LeBron James

54:54 Playing With Kobe Bryant

57:04 What Antawn Is Most Proud Of From His Career

58:38 Being Part Of The Decision To Hire Coach Michael Malone

01:03:28 Vince & Antawn Share Their College Stories

01:05:29 What Antawn Would Tell His Younger Self

01:07:17 Why Gilbert Arenas Was His Favorite Teammate

01:10:26 Wrap Up

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xNBA legend Lou Williams joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to discuss his 17-year NBA career, Sixth Man legacy, and the story behind “Lemon Pepper Lou.”

Lou Williams reflects on growing up between Memphis and Atlanta, where baseball was his first love before basketball took over. He shares the people who helped keep him on the right path, his rise into a nationally recognized prospect, and why staying loyal to his high school mattered so much. Lou also looks back on watching Sebastian Telfair get drafted—a moment that made the NBA dream feel real—reveals why Georgia would have been his college choice, and opens up about entering the league at just 18 years old.

Lou discusses winning three NBA Sixth Man of the Year awards, finishing as a runner-up four times, and why he believes he was overlooked for multiple NBA All-Star selections. He shares what he learned from Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant and Kawhi Leonard, his friendship with Kawhi, and what went wrong for the Los Angeles Clippers in the 2020 NBA Bubble.

Plus, Lou talks about his passion for music, managing artist Akeem Ali, SGA, the Western Conference, Luka Dončić leading the Lakers, and whether an NBA championship or MVP holds more weight.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:26 Lou Williams Joins Cousins

01:56 The Story Behind “Lemon Pepper Lou”

05:44 Lou Williams’ Childhood & Basketball Beginnings

12:13 Maintaining Balance & Discipline Among His Peers

14:41 Choosing Loyalty Over Pace Academy

17:13 Deciding To Go Pro After High School

25:00 The College Lou Williams Would’ve Attended

26:42 The Challenges Of Lou’s Rookie Season

31:05 Embracing His Sixth Man Legacy

39:07 Learning From Kobe Bryant, Kawhi Leonard & Allen Iverson

42:07 Xfinity Court Connections

51:01 Managing Akeem Ali & His Passion For Music

56:40 Breaking Down The Western Conference

01:05:24 Breaking Down The Eastern Conference

01:06:47 NBA Championship vs. MVP

01:10:35 Wrap Up

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YT DESCRIPTION: WNBA legend Tina Thompson joins Vince Carter and Tracy McGrady on Cousins to discuss her Hall of Fame career, the Houston Comets dynasty, and helping build the foundation of the WNBA.

Tina looks back on learning basketball alongside her older brother and how competing against older players built her confidence. She reflects on winning four championships with the Houston Comets, the WNBA’s early years, and why she waited until less than 48 hours before the draft to commit to the league. Tina also shares what it means to see the growth of the WNBA today.

Tina reveals why her first championship was the most memorable and why the Comets’ third title, dedicated to teammate Kim Perrot during her battle with cancer, remains closest to her heart. She also discusses Sheryl Swoopes, scouting for the Portland Trail Blazers, her relationship with Damian Lillard, and the story behind her signature red lipstick.

Plus, Tina weighs in on the 2026 WNBA championship and MVP conversations, including A’ja Wilson, Olivia Miles, Paige Bueckers and Angel Reese. She reflects on Candace Parker entering the Naismith Basketball Hall of Fame, shares her thoughts on JuJu Watkins and Jazzy Davidson, and shows her excitement about seeing the Houston Comets return to the WNBA.

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:22 Tina Thompson Joins Cousins

02:03 Tina Thompson’s Introduction To Basketball

08:49 Gaining Confidence Playing Against Older Guys

13:08 The Moment Her Brother Validated Her Game

14:58 The Houston Comets Dynasty

23:34 Building The WNBA From The Ground Up

25:40 Deciding To Join The WNBA

29:14 Watching The Growth Of The WNBA Today

34:20 Xfinity Court Connections

36:55 Winning Four Championships With The Houston Comets

38:25 Losing Kim Perrot To Cancer During A Championship Run

42:05 Sheryl Swoopes’ Iconic Era

43:39 The Houston Comets Return

44:17 The Story Behind Tina Thompson’s Signature Lipstick

50:51 2026 WNBA Championship Contenders

53:28 Tina Thompson’s WNBA MVP Candidates

56:59 Watching Candace Parker Enter The Hall Of Fame

58:19 Thoughts On JuJu Watkins & Jazzy Davidson

01:01:41 Wrap Up

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The Cousins sit down to discuss what it means to be “the guy,” becoming a franchise player, and the pressure of leading a team.

T-Mac shares what it was like becoming the Orlando Magic’s franchise player at 21, while Vince explains how he grew into that role with the Toronto Raptors and became a stronger leader with the New Jersey Nets. They discuss handling losing streaks, learning from veterans, and why the best player doesn’t always have to be the loudest voice. Plus, T-Mac shares stories about Houston Rockets teammates Yao Ming and Dikembe Mutombo and the importance of relationships off the court.

Vince and T-Mac open up about the physical and mental toll of carrying an NBA franchise. T-Mac recalls his exhausting 2007 Game 7 against the Utah Jazz, the frustrations that led him from Orlando to Houston, and Vince shares his struggles with injuries in Toronto. They also discuss accountability and how social media criticism impacts today’s players.

Plus, Vince and T-Mac explain why building an NBA legacy was worth the pressure and scrutiny. They name Brandon Miller and Scottie Barnes as potential franchise cornerstones and debate when loyalty to a team becomes a bad decision, including when it’s time to leave and when a player may have walked away too soon.

00:00 Intro

01:18 What It Really Means to Be “The Guy”

06:30 Vince Carter’s Welcome-to-the-Role Moment

08:30 The Moment T-Mac Became “The Guy”

10:35 T-Mac on Carrying Orlando Through a Losing Streak

16:41 When Vince Was Playing His Best Basketball

19:10 Leadership on T-Mac’s Rockets Teams

23:22 Can the Star Still Be One of the Guys?

27:13 Surviving the 82-Game Grind

31:47 The Mental and Physical Wear of an NBA Season

36:49 Xfinity Court Connections

42:09 Bouncing Back From a Difficult Season

49:13 How Social Media Has Changed Today’s Players

52:39 The Pressure of Being a Franchise Face

58:28 Who Has Next as a Franchise Player?

01:03:20 When Does Franchise Loyalty Go Too Far?

01:08:07 Wrap Up

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