Conan Neutron’s Protonic Reversal

Six years have past since Chris Spencer was last on Protonic! At the time Human Impact was brand new. So let's catch up. Starting with the reissue of Occupational Hazard on Lamb Unlimited. Remastered and including the AmRep demos. Unsane with Eric Cooper and Jon Syverson will be doing a lot of touring this year, along with an appearance at Roadburn! We speak about that as well the incredible story behind the release of the once lost, than found Improvised Munitions, and exactly where The Ernie Chicorelli disappeared to...the nature of the Telecaster and why it is the perfect guitar for Chris. The Body Bomb video (and MTV's very succinct response), synergy with the sonic science of Jim Coleman with Human Impact. Human Impact writing something like 48 songs during the pandemic. Celan Recording in Berlin's Neubauten studio in a wild two-week sprint. Cutthroats 9, Frank Kozik and Man's ruin. All that and so very much more!

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4 years and a month ago (what? Really?), William Goldsmith was on to talk about Sunny Real Estate, Fire Theft, Foo Fighers and Assertion. Now Assertion has a new record that snuck into Conan's top records of 2025 "Basking in the Gaslight". In additon to that Sunny Day Real Estate has been back and playing shows ! The "Down in the Park" sessions with the Foo Fighters (as well as some great talk about Gary Numan).. the recording of Diary and history of that as well as revisiting. Which albums William can listen to and which he can't... and that there are 3 2" tapes of 90s Sunny Day Real Estate waiting to get listened to. Wow! All this plus SDRE and Fire Theft history. William's powerful friendship with Scott Jernigan of KARP, including a two drummer project! and lots, lots more. It's been a long time, let's catch up.

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Black Heart is back, and playing shows in 2025. What wonderful news. Pall knows knives! Acidwrx balisong knives (aka: switchblades). Probably more knife talk than has ever happened on this show. The history of Three Mile Pilot, a history of Black Heart Procession. working with Issac Brock on Ugly Casanova (and Modest Mouse in general), making a video for every song BEFORE the youtube age, Corey Rusk calling about being on Touch and Go and getting the message from his mom, the act of creation, being a quiet person and a frontman, and the Ice Cream Floats upcoming cruise. It's been 5 1/2 years since Pall's Black heart bandmate Toby was on, so let's dig in.

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B. Hamilton - B. Hamilton - Good Foot (ep429)




Lung - The Swankeeper - The Money




Gaytheist - The Mustache Stays - Break Me In (ep425)




mclusky - the world is still here and so are we - way of the exploding dickhead




PLOSIVS - YELL AT CLOUD - Falls Equivalency




HLLLYH - URUBURU - Black Rainbows (ep434)




Buñuel - Mansuetude - Drug Burn (ep401)




Deaf Club - We Demand A Permanent State of Happiness - Nihilism For Dummies (Ep432, Ep442)




Vile Bees - Joy Coughs - Anime Bodies




Chat Pile and Hayden Pedigo - In the Earth Again - Demon Time




We Contain Multitudes - Minako - D9 (ep431)




Jolie Laide - Creatures - Something for the Thrill (ep424)




Resurrectionists - Any Time You Make a Place for Them - Hey Man




Cheer-Accident - Admission - Cold Comfort (ep430)




FACS - Wish Defense - Wish Defense (ep417)




Heet Deth - Bad Reading - King of Swords




Cosmic Kitten - Cosmic Kitten - Hole In My Soul




The Austerity Program - Bible Songs 2 - Lamentations 4:7-11 (Ep423)




Sloan - Based on the Best Seller - Dream Destroyer




Swami John Reis - Time to Let You Down - Fed to the Dogs




Shiner - BELIEVEYOUME - Asleep In the Trunk




Tropical Fuck Storm - Fairyland Codex - Dunning Kruger's Loser Cruiser




Melvins - Thunderball - Victory of the Pyramids




Lightning Swells Forever - Delirium - Daze




Assertion - Basking in the Gaslight - Please Wake Up



Listening playlist - apple music, spotify, youtube music

Also, while listening to stuff... Conan put out a Conan Neutron & the Secret Friends record called The Way of the Neutron too. apple music, spotify, youtube music

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The evolution of the Champs, including the Santa Cruz days and move to SF and Tim Green joining. Playing metal in an environment that didn't always support that. changing the name to C4AM95 for their "third record" and why that may have not been the smartest idea. Listing gear in the record jacket, Drag City, Changing to The Fucking Champs (based on a t-shirt), IV and Extra Man. Collaborations and tours with Trans Am, Josh leaving and Phil Manley tagging in. Side projects and how the Champs kind of petered out. Tim also has a synth based electronic record out called Orange Magnet on bandcamp. and why a Fucking Champs reunion is pretty unlikely.

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