Those Conspiracy Guys

TRUE CRIME On this episode we talk about James Joseph DeAngelo now known as The Golden State Killer and his 40 year reign of terror on the unsuspecting residents of California. During the 70s DeAngelo committed a series of brutal rapes and murders but did so in many different areas and with seemingly different motives and techniques. He was mistakenly identified as the Visalia Ransacker, The Original Night Stalker and The Diamond Knot Killer by law enforcement; thinking these murders were committed by different people. His preparation, execution and psychological terrorism after the crimes had been committed have never been equalled. His efficiency and careful planning left him unapprehended until summer of 2018. I'll Be Gone in The Dark, the book by Michelle McNamara, and her tireless work writing about this case brought new evidence to light in the years preceding his arrest. DNA evidence and modern investigative tools finally put a name to the criminal known by so many aliases. Johnny Daly from @DisasterArtists podcast joins me to chat about JJ DeAngelo and the cases, techniques, and brutal executions he administered to his victims. You can find Johnny and his podcast on all podcast platforms and at http://www.disasterartistspodcast.com --- TCGTV PROJECT Please support the TCG TV project by visiting http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv and donating what you can. All the details will be there and anything thats missing will be added very shortly. Your support is greatly appreciated and I will take a year and travel all across the continental US making documentaries and a daily vlog as I meet other podcasters, youtubers, conspiracy experts, witnesses, scientists and go to all the places we only talk about on the show! Its a big swing at a unique media endeavour and the TCG fans can make it happen. If you dont want to use GoFundMe you can donate via PayPal and get all the perks and added to the GFM mailing list just the same. Click this link to donate http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys --- CONTACT Email us with comments or questions info@thoseconspiracyguys.com Visit our website for all our sources and TCG news at http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com There is also a Discord server where all the super fans hang out and chat, episodes are discussed, news and current events are shared and craic is had all over. Click this link to join the audio/video and text chat rooms http://discord.gg/NPUNty2 and Patreons get access to loads of other secret channels there and every episode has its own place to chat so to visit the channel all about this episode topic --- SOCIAL MEDIA If you're on Twitter follow http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys @tconspiracyguys is Gordo replying to you btw :) Send us your links, questions and comments on Facebook and we reply to as many people as we can http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys You can also get stories and our IGTV at the TCG Instagram http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys --- SUPPORT Also you can support us by visiting http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys and your donations help keep the show alive and thriving, you get discounts on merchandise, outtakes, early releases and a backstage pass to a live TCG discussion show every month plus loads more. --- MERCH If you are really loving the show you can buy merchandise at http://goo.gl/xHXYWg which is a link to our TeePublic store where you can get hundreds of conspiracy designs all curated by episode and available on t-shirts and hoodies as well as mugs, tote bags, phone cases, canvas prints, notebooks, pillows and stickers. --- MORE MEDIA You can check out some of our video content including the video version of this episode recorded live in studio at http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys and get all the updates of sources from the show and live chat streams we do every month. You can also check out videos of some of the sources that cant really live on YouTube on www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys and https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys which are alternatives to YouTube for streaming video. These websites are a little more creator friendly when it comes to content like ours and documentaries and other video sources can be found there. We stream Live Chats with Patreon fans on http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys where you can watch there and join in on the chat! Or if you want to join in on these chats on video you can become a supporter of the show at http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys and you can get screen time to discuss the previous episodes or current conspiracy news. I also plan to livestream the podcast recordings there as well so subscribe Other sources available and add them to your own boards on Pinterest at http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys Head over to our subreddit and see what the community is up to at http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys There is also an audio app where we can chat about current events or just share audio clips here Anchor - https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys And a block chain based blog site for content that is now considered not mainstream is at Minds - http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys --- OTHER PODCASTS We also have a new podcast where we discuss Movies, TV and Video Games called 'Why Press Play' and you can find us on any platform by searching ‘WhyPressPlay’. I try to find the hidden gems in media of old so when you are browsing a Netflix queue or looking for something good to watch you can catch those great movies that you would normally pass over. Spend less time choosing and more time watching!

MAIN EPISODE On this episode we talk about an issue that permeates the fabric of society in almost every way possible and is considered a long term malicious attacks on American society and one of the most insidious systems of class based justice ever created; The War on Drugs. In the 1970s America was facing a crisis; a moral and social cancer that threatened the American way of life. Richard Nixon declared a war on drugs to combat their corrosive effect on the youth of America. Others claim it was an attempt to maintain control on a population that was becoming wise to the marinations of the political elite and the culture those new citizens were growing up in had harmless party drugs at its centre. Laws and governmental organisations that exist today were created in this time and in the 1980s during the crack cocaine epidemic plaguing American cities; Reagan announced the Zero Tolerance policy which led to hundreds of thousands of young men and women being incarcerated for much longer than necessary. The prison industrial complex grew from this and instead of compassion for addiction, a punitive and unproductive policy of mass incarceration began in America. Vilifying drug addicts is one thing, but interfering in the politics of the countries where the drugs are grown throws a suspicious light on the motives behind this so called War on Drugs. The DEA and CIA were in the headlines thanks to whistle blowers like Gary Webb. We look at all this and how other countries, like Portugal, are leading the charge in the management of addiction and narcotic drug use. Joining me on this episode we have Edwin Sammon (@edwinsammon) and Adam Burke (@hardyharbray) if you want to find them online --- TCGTV PROJECT Please support the TCG TV project by visiting [http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv](http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv) and donating what you can. All the details will be there and anything thats missing will be added very shortly. Your support is greatly appreciated and I will take a year and travel all across the continental US making documentaries and a daily vlog as I meet other podcasters, youtubers, conspiracy experts, witnesses, scientists and go to all the places we only talk about on the show! Its a big swing at a unique media endeavour and the TCG fans can make it happen. If you dont want to use GoFundMe you can donate via PayPal and get all the perks and added to the GFM mailing list just the same. Click this link to donate [http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys) --- CONTACT Email us with comments or questions [info@thoseconspiracyguys.com](mailto:info@thoseconspiracyguys.com) Visit our website for all our sources and TCG news at [http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com](http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com/) There is also a Discord server where all the super fans hang out and chat, episodes are discussed, news and current events are shared and craic is had all over. Click this link to join the audio/video and text chat rooms [http://discord.gg/NPUNty2](http://discord.gg/NPUNty2) Patreons get access to loads of other secret channels there and every episode has its own place to chat so to visit the channel all about this episode topic, click here [https://discord.gg/Cbd9YfT](https://discord.gg/Cbd9YfT) if you are a Patreon supporter --- SOCIAL MEDIA If you're on Twitter follow [http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys](http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys) @tconspiracyguys is Gordo replying to you btw :) Send us your links, questions and comments on Facebook and we reply to as many people as we can [http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys) You can also get stories and our IGTV at the TCG Instagram [http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys) --- SUPPORT Also you can support us by visiting [http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and your donations help keep the show alive and thriving, you get discounts on merchandise, outtakes, early releases and a backstage pass to a live TCG discussion show every month plus loads more. --- MERCH If you are really loving the show you can buy merchandise at [http://goo.gl/xHXYWg](http://goo.gl/xHXYWg) which is a link to our TeePublic store where you can get hundreds of conspiracy designs all curated by episode and available on t-shirts and hoodies as well as mugs, tote bags, phone cases, canvas prints, notebooks, pillows and stickers. --- MORE MEDIA You can check out some of our video content including the video version of this episode recorded live in studio at [http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and get all the updates of sources from the show and live chat streams we do every month. You can also check out videos of some of the sources that cant really live on YouTube on [www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and [https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys](https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys) which are alternatives to YouTube for streaming video. These websites are a little more creator friendly when it comes to content like ours and documentaries and other video sources can be found there. We stream Live Chats with Patreon fans on [http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys) where you can watch there and join in on the chat! Or if you want to join in on these chats on video you can become a supporter of the show at [www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and you can get screen time to discuss the previous episodes or current conspiracy news. I also plan to livestream the podcast recordings there as well so subscribe Other sources available and add them to your own boards on Pinterest at [http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys](http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys) Head over to our subreddit and see what the community is up to at [http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys) There is also an audio app where we can chat about current events or just share audio clips here Anchor - [https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys](https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys) And a block chain based blog site for content that is now considered not mainstream is at Minds - [www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys) --- OTHER PODCASTS We also have a new podcast where we discuss Movies, TV and Video Games called 'Why Press Play' and you can find us on any platform by searching ‘WhyPressPlay’. I try to find the hidden gems in media of old so when you are browsing a Netflix queue or looking for something good to watch you can catch those great movies that you would normally pass over. Spend less time choosing and more time watching!

TRUE CRIME On this episode we take on one of Australia's most mysterious deaths in the shape of The Somerton Man also known as The Taman Shud Case. A man found on the beach in Adelaide with no ID, no next of kin, some strange items on his person and, as it turned out, a very secretive local history. Was there some international spy carry on? Maybe a murder to hide some embarrassing secrets? Who knows but some new scientific revelations could shine some light on the identity of the man at least. --- Jarlath Regan joins me on this episode and you can find his chart topping show called 'An Irishman Abroad' here https://apple.co/2QHG8E4 and check out his Patreon page here http://www.patreon.com/irishmanabroad where you will find his other podcasts 'Men Behaving Better' and 'An Irishman Behind Bars' or if you want to hear the episode where I join him on his show to talk about podcasting, life and loads more you can find that here https://apple.co/2QDFaZx --- TCGTV PROJECT Please support the TCG TV project by visiting [http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv](http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv) and donating what you can. All the details will be there and anything thats missing will be added very shortly. Your support is greatly appreciated and I will take a year and travel all across the continental US making documentaries and a daily vlog as I meet other podcasters, youtubers, conspiracy experts, witnesses, scientists and go to all the places we only talk about on the show! Its a big swing at a unique media endeavour and the TCG fans can make it happen. If you dont want to use GoFundMe you can donate via PayPal and get all the perks and added to the GFM mailing list just the same. Click this link to donate [http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys) --- CONTACT Email us with comments or questions [info@thoseconspiracyguys.com](mailto:info@thoseconspiracyguys.com) Visit our website for all our sources and TCG news at [http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com](http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com/) There is also a Discord server where all the super fans hang out and chat, episodes are discussed, news and current events are shared and craic is had all over. Click this link to join the audio/video and text chat rooms [http://discord.gg/NPUNty2](http://discord.gg/NPUNty2) Patreons get access to loads of other secret channels there and every episode has its own place to chat so to visit the channel all about this episode topic, click here [https://discord.gg/Cbd9YfT](https://discord.gg/Cbd9YfT) if you are a Patreon supporter --- SOCIAL MEDIA If you're on Twitter follow [http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys](http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys) @tconspiracyguys is Gordo replying to you btw :) Send us your links, questions and comments on Facebook and we reply to as many people as we can [http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys) You can also get stories and our IGTV at the TCG Instagram [http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys) --- SUPPORT Also you can support us by visiting [http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and your donations help keep the show alive and thriving, you get discounts on merchandise, outtakes, early releases and a backstage pass to a live TCG discussion show every month plus loads more. --- MERCH If you are really loving the show you can buy merchandise at [http://goo.gl/xHXYWg](http://goo.gl/xHXYWg) which is a link to our TeePublic store where you can get hundreds of conspiracy designs all curated by episode and available on t-shirts and hoodies as well as mugs, tote bags, phone cases, canvas prints, notebooks, pillows and stickers. --- MORE MEDIA You can check out some of our video content including the video version of this episode recorded live in studio at [http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and get all the updates of sources from the show and live chat streams we do every month. You can also check out videos of some of the sources that cant really live on YouTube on [www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and [https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys](https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys) which are alternatives to YouTube for streaming video. These websites are a little more creator friendly when it comes to content like ours and documentaries and other video sources can be found there. We stream Live Chats with Patreon fans on [http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys) where you can watch there and join in on the chat! Or if you want to join in on these chats on video you can become a supporter of the show at [www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and you can get screen time to discuss the previous episodes or current conspiracy news. I also plan to livestream the podcast recordings there as well so subscribe Other sources available and add them to your own boards on Pinterest at [http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys](http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys) Head over to our subreddit and see what the community is up to at [http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys) There is also an audio app where we can chat about current events or just share audio clips here Anchor - [https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys](https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys) And a block chain based blog site for content that is now considered not mainstream is at Minds - [www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys) --- OTHER PODCASTS We also have a new podcast where we discuss Movies, TV and Video Games called 'Why Press Play' and you can find us on any platform by searching ‘WhyPressPlay’. I try to find the hidden gems in media of old so when you are browsing a Netflix queue or looking for something good to watch you can catch those great movies that you would normally pass over. Spend less time choosing and more time watching!

MAIN EPISODE On this episode we talk about the best and worst kept secret in the community of elite billionaires that rule the world, Bohemian Grove. Nestled deep in the forests of Redwood trees in Northern California, this luxury campground sees the best and worst of high society gather in a highly exclusive clandestine fraternal ritual comprised of chants, burning effigies, nudity, sexual activity, and talks and presentations by some of the worlds most qualified and experienced speakers. Some allege that the burning is of real bodies and that there are prostitution rings set up specifically for this 17 day long mid-summer jaunt in the woods. Very few whistleblowers have spilled the beans on the Grove and sensational claims have been made by infiltrators like Alex Jones. But we wonder what really goes on in there? Im joined by Emmet Quinn ([http://www.twitter.com/emequaliser](http://www.twitter.com/emequaliser)) and Shane Brown ([http://www.twitter.com/shanebr32](http://www.twitter.com/shanebr32) --- CHAPTERS 00:40:19 What is Bohemian Grove? 01:07:47 The History of The Grove 01:33:51 How Bohemian Grove Operates 01:47:56 The Different Sections 02:00:17 The Cremation of Care 02:29:00 Moloch and The Gang 03:04:20 Sacrifice Children to Lilith 03:09:49 Secret Meetings 03:20:01 Other Secret Societies 03:29:22 Off The Fence --- TCGTV PROJECT Please support the TCG TV project by visiting [http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv](http://www.gofundme.com/tcgtv) and donating what you can. All the details will be there and anything thats missing will be added very shortly. Your support is greatly appreciated and I will take a year and travel all across the continental US making documentaries and a daily vlog as I meet other podcasters, youtubers, conspiracy experts, witnesses, scientists and go to all the places we only talk about on the show! Its a big swing at a unique media endeavour and the TCG fans can make it happen. If you dont want to use GoFundMe you can donate via PayPal and get all the perks and added to the GFM mailing list just the same. Click this link to donate [http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.paypal.me/thoseconspiracyguys) --- CONTACT Email us with comments or questions [info@thoseconspiracyguys.com](mailto:info@thoseconspiracyguys.com) Visit our website for all our sources and TCG news at [http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com](http://www.thoseconspiracyguys.com/) There is also a Discord server where all the super fans hang out and chat, episodes are discussed, news and current events are shared and craic is had all over. Click this link to join the audio/video and text chat rooms [http://discord.gg/NPUNty2](http://discord.gg/NPUNty2) Patreons get access to loads of other secret channels there and every episode has its own place to chat so to visit the channel all about this episode topic, click here [https://discord.gg/Cbd9YfT](https://discord.gg/Cbd9YfT) if you are a Patreon supporter --- SOCIAL MEDIA If you're on Twitter follow [http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys](http://www.twitter.com/tconspiracyguys) @tconspiracyguys is Gordo replying to you btw :) Send us your links, questions and comments on Facebook and we reply to as many people as we can [http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.facebook.com/thoseconspiracyguys) You can also get stories and our IGTV at the TCG Instagram [http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.instagram.com/thoseconspiracyguys) --- SUPPORT Also you can support us by visiting [http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and your donations help keep the show alive and thriving, you get discounts on merchandise, outtakes, early releases and a backstage pass to a live TCG discussion show every month plus loads more. --- MERCH If you are really loving the show you can buy merchandise at [http://goo.gl/xHXYWg](http://goo.gl/xHXYWg) which is a link to our TeePublic store where you can get hundreds of conspiracy designs all curated by episode and available on t-shirts and hoodies as well as mugs, tote bags, phone cases, canvas prints, notebooks, pillows and stickers. --- MORE MEDIA You can check out some of our video content including the video version of this episode recorded live in studio at [http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.youtube.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and get all the updates of sources from the show and live chat streams we do every month. You can also check out videos of some of the sources that cant really live on YouTube on [www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and [https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys](https://www.bitchute.com/thoseconspiracyguys) which are alternatives to YouTube for streaming video. These websites are a little more creator friendly when it comes to content like ours and documentaries and other video sources can be found there. We stream Live Chats with Patreon fans on [http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.twitch.tv/thoseconspiracyguys) where you can watch there and join in on the chat! Or if you want to join in on these chats on video you can become a supporter of the show at [www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.patreon.com/thoseconspiracyguys) and you can get screen time to discuss the previous episodes or current conspiracy news. I also plan to livestream the podcast recordings there as well so subscribe Other sources available and add them to your own boards on Pinterest at [http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys](http://www.pinterest.com/tconspiracyguys) Head over to our subreddit and see what the community is up to at [http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.reddit.com/r/thoseconspiracyguys) There is also an audio app where we can chat about current events or just share audio clips here Anchor - [https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys](https://anchor.fm/thoseconspiracyguys) And a block chain based blog site for content that is now considered not mainstream is at Minds - [www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys](http://www.minds.com/thoseconspiracyguys) --- OTHER PODCASTS We also have a new podcast where we discuss Movies, TV and Video Games called 'Why Press Play' and you can find us on any platform by searching ‘WhyPressPlay’. I try to find the hidden gems in media of old so when you are browsing a Netflix queue or looking for something good to watch you can catch those great movies that you would normally pass over. Spend less time choosing and more time watching!

ANNOUNCEMENT So here it is, the Season 7 announcement. Season 6 is over and we had a great time over the last year; this reasonably rambly and emotive mini-episode is all about what has been going on in the last year with me, the show, and other TCG related business. I talk about being burned out at the start of the year; the crazy recording schedule over the summer; moving out of our home; and the future including TCGTV stuff. Its a bit long but it says everything I need to say and answers a Lot of the questions you have been asking. If you're not interested in any of the business/industry stuff and you just want conspiracy theories and dick jokes, then probably give this one a miss! Thank you all for listening to the show! I have an amazing life because of you and I don't say that enough! I can wait to make more amazing thing with these awesome people and share it with you!